Parents Lose Custody of Daughter for Opposing Transgender Medical Treatments

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh. So she wants to turn a hole into a pole. If it is that important to her, maybe she can work hard and save up for the surgery. She will be a legal adult by then.

    On a side note, there was a discussion about not selling guns to those with mental issues. Does she qualify to be on the NO BUY list?
     
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    You can’t get a freaking tattoo at 17 without a parent.
     
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    Right. And this is progress. This is what our government and education system has done to our youth and our society. Convincing kids they should switch and become monsters. If it was not for sending a message that this is a normal decision one has to make and for the culture giving its blessings there would not be this rush to perverse acts.
     
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    "Monsters?" Wtf?
     
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    Or drink. Or vote. Or get married.

    But allegedly sane adults will help you mutilate your body and mind if it involves S.E.X.

    In the past 12 months I've looked pretty closely at this stuff, and my conclusions (for what they're worth) are so disturbing that I don't even like thinking about it to the extent of typing these posts. Let's just say that the problem is the adults - no surprise there. But not just in the ordinary "silly parents dropped the ball' way.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If a teen has xenomelia should the state take the kids away and order that to happen as well?
     
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    That's how they will regard themselves. Be VERY sure of that.

    Want to contribute to that kind of destruction?
     
  8. crank

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    No, because it's not sexy.
     
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    Shemales, then. Sorry.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah but if you don't let them chop off their arms and legs they'll threaten to kill themselves.

    There's a new one: teens threatening to kill themselves if they don't get what they want.
     
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    No, i wont be sure of that and neither will you. You are NOT in their lives to shower and hammer them with such mean, negative crap, thank God.
     
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    Interesting question, she has threatened suicide.
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Easy mistake since the MSM using begins by calling the gender which they aren't.
     
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    To me it's akin to appeasing someone with Munchausens by performing unnecessary surgeries.
     
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    A seventeen year old has not reached the age of majority. I'd say hold off on potentially life threatening surgeries, it's less than a year. No need to be making legal precedent.

    https://minors.uslegal.com/age-of-majority/ohio-age-of-majority-law/
     
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    My parents wouldn't even let me have a minibike or a BB gun. Those things were too radical and unconventional for my parents. I got lots of baseball bats and gloves.

    My parents' heads literally would have exploded if I had asked for a sex change operation in the 1970's.

    Of course when I became an adult I got two guns and a motorcycle.
     
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    Your repeated attempts to insult me don't seem very mature.

    I'll take the word of doctors and psychiatrists over some person on the internet.

    The parents had removed him from all psychiatric care and sent him to a "christian therapist" who had him listening to bible readings. That's not legitimate care for someone with a mental illness.
     
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    I'm not a psychiatrist, lawyer, or doctor. I'll leave these sort of decisions to the professionals.

    It doesn't appear that the state removed the child from custody. A 17 year old can legally choose to live with their grandparents over their parents, particularly in a situation like this where there was abuse.
     
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    Remember the Johnny Cash song about a man named Sue?

    First, I would take the scientific approach. I would want to know a full scope on the genes. Do the Genes show a male or a female? The body prior to birth had made up the "mind" to establish sex. Did Nature supply male organs?

    The child to me sounds so disturbed how can one accept the child's view? We have plenty of Democrat judges who rule like Democrats, not like founders.

    I complain they get called liberals. A liberal is tolerante. The parents are the child's lawful parents and have a duty to the child to do what is best for the child.

    If a 12 year old says if you do not allow him to surgically remove his right leg, he will kill himself, do you turn him over to the grandparents?
     
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    Why isn't it a Democratic Party platform? Where are the ads about kids being able to make these decisions without parental approval? When I start seeing the ads, I will start taking this seriously.
     
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    Have you ever met a government "professional"?

    What a strange world we live in when not letting your child lop their penis off is "abuse".
     
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    Do you accept the study of Genes as a tool to determine true sexuality?

    I suggest the teen first establish using Genetic studies the true sexual nature of the person.
     
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    T_K_Richards Well-Known Member

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    All of the people involved in this decision are certified professionals. Your opinion holds no weight.

    Clearly you didn't actually read the article:

    "The teen’s parents want court authority to stop their child from getting the treatment and therapy that was recommended by his medical team in what it characterizes as a possible life-or-death situation.

    Medical experts testified that the father’s ongoing refusal to call the child by his chosen name and the parents’ rejection of the teen’s gender identity have triggered suicidal feelings.

    In November 2016, the teen had contacted a crisis chat service to say he felt unsafe in his parents’ home, according to the complaint. The teen reported that his father told him to kill himself, because he was “going to hell anyway,” according to a transcript of the closing arguments"

    That's abusive behavior and if a 17 year old wants to escape that it's ok by me.
     
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    Really.

    So these professionals determined that not letting the teen get the surgery is a "life or death" situation, because the teen threatened to commit suicide, eh?

    I guess the grandparents better never threaten to take the car away or ground the teen, since that also could be a "life or death" situation, according to the metrics used by these "professionals".

    Regardless, this mentally ill child will probably end up killing themselves anyway.

    Do these "professionals" know the suicide rate among transgenders?
     
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    You seem really upset by this. Maybe you should talk to someone about it.

    Again, I trust the medical and legal professionals on this matter. Your opinion is meaningless.

    Teens do commit suicide all the time. People who can protect them from that fate should.

    A father encouraging a teenager to kill themselves is disgusting and abusive. There is nothing else to say about it.
     
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