Trump orders establishment of 'space force' as 6th branch of military

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  1. tecoyah

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    The question is not the limits presented by Physics but those of your imagination. Particle beam, rail gun, directed impacts, Lasers, Electro magnetics....just off the top of my head.
     
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    Directed impacts is the kinetic energy Project Thor type weapon I mentioned. They are big and very heavy. Any satellite hiding a Thor type weapon would be obvious because it would be way oversized.

    Everything else you mentioned has two MAJOR problems: generating enough energy to actually be used and radiating the heat both he energy source and the weapon itself would generate. Any energy based space weapon is going to need gigantic radiators and those would give it away.

    See? Physics is not your friend.
     
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    Yes I do enjoy Physics....have you ever considered the ultimate "Thors Hammer" scenario? This is what I mean by imagination....one little tug boat satellite and we go the way of Dinosaurs.

    This might give you a spark:
    https://www.space.com/19-top-10-space-weapons.html
     
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    It would take something way bigger than a satellite to capture and move an asteroid big enough to end civilization.
     
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    Me thinks you might want to study momentum and space.
     
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    Methinks you want to study Delta-V and how something the size of a satellite wouldn’t be able to move an asteroid with the kind of engines a satellites would have.

    Unless the goal is to get that asteroid to earth in a couple million years.
     
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    Have A Nice Day:?
     
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    Translation: “I concede that I don’t know what I’m talking about.”
     
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    The biggest development in the US military will be the Naval Rail Gun making every other Navy and the aircraft carrier obsolete. And with a 200 mile orbital range it makes the "Space Force" mostly useless, (except as target practice)

    We have working prototypes with most of the kinks worked out. When the big guns come on line your talking about a hypersonic molten ton slug of steel able to shatter a Ford Class Carrier into pieces from over 200 miles away.

    Let Trump have his fantasy, Congress and the Pentagon will let the ignorant fool rant while he gets jack in funding.
     
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    it probably should of been a duty of the air force, not sure this is cost effective

    though if I was 18, I would sign up, no risk of being assigned to war and fun high tech opportunity
     
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    fyi, battleships are obsolete. in addition nuclear weapons are used for large scale destruction, now due to the accuracy of guidance systems, smaller can be used because of being to place a weapon on target.
     
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    fyi, buzz aldrin wrote a book, back to the moon, that had a nuclear weapon go off in space and the havoc that it caused.
     
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    “Most of the kinks worked out” apparently means “can’t solve the long capicator charge problem nor can we make rails that don’t require multi-million dollar replacements every couple shots”
     
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    And it wasn’t an accurate representation of what a nuke in space would do.
     
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    Yay. More big government spending. You keep on doing that hypocrisy you do best, conservatives!
     
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    Try actually reading the OP

    "Working with Congress,.........."
     
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    U.S. Battleships by 1944 were reclassified as being "fire support ships."

    With the retirement of the four Iowa class battleships during the 1990's the U.S. Navy no longer has any fire support ships capable of providing naval shore fire support for the U.S.Marine Corps.

    The 16" naval gun nuclear shell was a tactical nuclear weapon to support the grunts on the battlefield.

    The U.S. use to have a lot of cool tactical nuclear weapons during the 50's, 60's, 70's and into the 80's.

    My favorite tactical nuclear weapon was the U.S. Army's 280 mm M-65 atomic cannon, nothing more than a 11" naval gun.

    Beautiful gun.
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    Remember the Davy Crockett, the smallest nuclear tactical weapon ever developed ?
     
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    fyi, it is all done with cruise missles now, are far more accurate, can be carried on smaller craft that are cheaper to maintain.
     
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    Yeah and just look at how many failed beach assaults the USMC has had since the battleships were retired. Millions of dead Marines’ blood is on the hands of the people who made that decision!
     
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    Didn't the Army have a nuclear gun called " Long Tom"??
    I recall as a kid that they did. I read all of the books on airplanes, tanks, guns, military vehicles etc at our local branch library. Back when Inwas a kid the bomb liar capacity and speed was " classified".
     
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    That is true.
     
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