Dallas police officer shoots neighbor dead after entering wrong apartment

So it's the politicians fault is it? Cops can't train on their own to get better? They can train on their own without telling anyone, to avoid being "discouraged".
I dunno....that's what I would do if my job had the potential to need the use of a firearm. Shouldn't the incentive, for rank-and-file officers to pursue training, be that it could save their life??? How dumb are these rank-and-file officers???

 

Of course, why wouldn't a police officer want to become highly proficient with his duty weapon? Doesn't that make the public he/she serves safer?

 

That's it, pass the buck.

 

Firearms are dangerous, nobody disputes that fact.

More relevant is the fact that the motives and prevention for suicide and homicide are very different. Removing guns does not make a suicidal person change their mind, they still commit suicide - as Australia discovered after its 1996 gun ban.

 

Not always.

 

Almost never. A person decides to commit suicide and then chooses a method. In the USA, if a gun is available then thats typically their first choice, but if a gun is not available the person does not suddenly decide not to commit suicide he just uses a different method.

And there is the flaw in the gun banner reasoning. Removing one means of suicide does not remove the reasons a person has decided upon suicide. That persons mental issues and life situations have not been altered at all by making a firearm inaccessible.

 

Training is not the issue.

The cause in this case is the "above the law" and "us versus them" attitude of cops.

What will be interesting will be if justice prevails. Will the cop be treated like any other person or will the bully boys rally round and protect her?

She has been arrested for manslaughter, but lets see if she is actually convicted and sentenced just like any other person. Or is the arrest just a sham to placate Dallas?

 

I don't think so. In some cases, yes, but I bet there's a significant number that don't, particularly men.

 

Thats not what happened in Australia after their 1996 gun ban. In AUS, firearms were never a popular method of suicide (20% before the ban) and after the ban the number of suicide using a firearm decreased - but suicide using other methods increased (hanging was by far the most often selected method) and the suicide rate trend was not changed, it was decreasing before and after the ban.

And think about the causes of suicide - it has nothing to do with the availability of a firearm. Suicide is due to mental illness, substance abuse, personal relationship problems, financial problems, physical pain or disability, often its a combination of those issues. And suicide is generally the result of long term problems.

A person decides upon suicide after a long process of pain and anguish and stress, its not a spur of the moment decision made because a firearm is available.

 

My younger brother and I got into a heated debate, one I regret, when he was diagnosed with glioblastoma. This was in 1999. He said I think I might check out. The method he had in mind, shotgun. He didn't and died of the disease 5 months later.

Knowing him I can't see him using any other method. Knowing myself I can't see me using any other method. Sure you can say how do you know? If I'm the one doing it it'll be by firearm.

But, all your points are taken.

 

If a person really wants to off themselves, they do not need a gun. If they've reached the mental instability to where they believe it's time to go....they'll hurl themselves off a bridge or drive off a cliff.

 

Great. US Police Officers should be banned with a law. Let the citizenry sort things through. The Police has become bigger a threat than a gang of MS13 murderous Mexican gang bangers.

 

There is a reason that states with the most lax gun laws have the most suicides

 

and it has nothing to do with gun control laws. No one has ever been able to explain why suicides would be reduced by the gun laws you want

 

Consider it explained. LOL

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/business/wonkblog/suicide-rates/

What laws would you put in place to reduce gun suicides? (Not that I will ever get an answer)

 

They dont't care - they just want to ban guns.

 

As usual you have nothing to add

 

Is there a reason the places with highest gun control regulations still manage to murder more than others?

Gun control is a proven failure. And as stated, if a person is so unstable that they feel they need to end their own life...banning them from a fire arm won't stop them.

Are you familiar with the golden gate bridge?

 

You have an opinion. I am an expert in this area with over 27 years experience but I am also happy to cite scientific evidence since you should never believe anyone on the internet. Do you have any?

https://www.businessinsider.com/sci...tal-health-care-have-fewer-school-shootings-5

 

He's fishing from a slow-moving boat. Don't get hooked.

 

More nothing to add

 

If gun control works, than how is Chicago doing? D.C? New York City?

Can you tell me if guns are killing people there? How many?

 

I took the bait. Sometimes you have to.

 

I am so glad you bring up NYC. It is the safest large city in america and some have ranked it the third safest city in the world. Low gun deaths, low homicides and low violent crime (per capita). Why is that?