Britain to ban sale of all diesel and petrol cars and vans from 2040

Or the people will yearn for their combustion back.

Oh well, you knew some country was going to step into this nightmare first.

 

Or lead the way in electric, emission free future.

 

How about the Industries and the Coal Fired Power Plants.

 

The law is the gun. It’s used to force compulsion
and compliance, but it can’t override reality. Force doesn’t create iPhones; it destroys the minds that would.

If a product can’t win in the free market, it doesn’t deserve existence.

 

Trouble is, where can a product find a free market?

 

Must be some somewhere—Steve Jobs did it.

 

You have to break this down. They propose to ban the sale of NEW petrol and diesel cars from 2040.

The reason being, if they don't commit to a date, then there's no incentive for the auto manufacturers to invest in and develop the technology to make electric cars more viable.

At the moment, electric vans can't tow, you wouldn't get very far before the batteries flatten, hence why it's aimed at cars.

As 2040 drawers closer and if technology hasn't significantly improved, the 2040 date could be postponed to a later date.

I think it was France who first committed to 2040.

 

It’s all stupid BS to cover for power lusters. The aim is not the betterment of man; it is for the enslavement of the individual.

Man does not make progress at the point of a gun. A prosperous and happy future is not created by brutes, men of the muscle. No. Not at all. In reality, the universe and it’s future belong to the creators, the men of the mind.

It will not work.

 

How would you propose to incentivise the car industry to develop better technology to move away from fossil fuels or do you think mankind can carry on forever but oil eventually dry up?

Or do you think, do this in 50, 100 or 200 years time and claim communism then?

 

Don’t care. Put your gun away.

 

What is remotely emission free from an electric car? I mean, the smug alone....

 

Super easy one.

As oil prices go up and electricity prices go down car manufacturers will be incentivised due to economic realities.

What we have currently of course is the exact opposite economic reality.
Hence those who want it are having to try and force it against the flow of market economics.

As someone above says, at gun point because their utopian vision of the world is diametrically at odds with the reality of it.

When in the future, the future becomes as you predict, the problem will magically resolve itself without you. Market forces will make it happen when those conditions you imagine, exist.

 

I would say green electric is more costly than oil.

 

I would agree.

Hence it needs subsidy and tax incentives to make as many sales as it currently does.

So right now it's not the most economic solution.
It is however still a very fashionable one.

Rich people love it.

 

The economic reality is that Europe does not have oil but it has cheap electricity. It makes sense for EU gov's to push in this direction.

I dont know about you, but I pay ~5 euros per gallon but I have a 30 euros electricity bill per month for 150 sqm house, 4 people.


Second point, I don't believe there is such a thing as free market. Maybe it was one, during tribal times. Since the human invention of goverment, it is his very job to control the economy and markets: by tarrifs, by differential Vat on products, by banning, by bailing out, anti monopolies, etc. The markets are controlled by governments and by the top 1%, not fully controlled but not in the way I can call it 'free'

 

How much of your 5 Euros per gallon is tax?

That isn't just the price of petrol you are paying.

And if you had an unsubsidised electricity bill that would be less too.


So you don't have cheap electricity and you don't have cheap petrol and your government is the reason why.

Because they are fighting the market conditions to prefer an economic condition that does not exist but that instead they wish to create.


I believe there is no free market either.
Free trade still can and does occur. Free market conditions are still the best conditions to get the maximum efficiency of supply and demand. But it's not an ideal world.

 

The domino theory about the spread of communism was REAL and this is it! Environmentalism Extremism is the home of for Communists. With Environmentalism and Healthcare, you can totally control the lives of people and how they behave and that was always the goal of Communism.

 

It should make for an interesting shift in geopolitics as well, such a massive move away from fossil fuels. So long Saudi Arabia, eh. Russia will need to develop a real economy, too.

 

Just tragic. Those bastard Commies think they can force everyone to stop destroying the Earth.

 

I was taught how to behave in kindergarten and school plus my family, and my life is controlled by my wife and goverment rules.

It has nothing to do with communism, , its all about government and society regarding your point.

I agree that the goverment wants full control of my life and much of my money. Communist gov or not.

 

That is not proof they can or will.

All of the Euro-States have $TRILLIONS in unfunded liabilities coming due between now and 2040.

Britain is in the best position fiscally, because their unfunded liabilities only amount to 75% of their GDP.

Italy is in the worst situation, with their unfunded liabilities amounting to 300% of their GDP.

France recently took steps to put itself in a better position. France increased the retirement age to 65 years, slashed the pension benefit from 50% to 37.5% and increased the number of years of required work to 41 years for those born before 1975 and 42 years for those born after. Note that Americans only have to work 35 years.

Even so, France's unfunded liabilities still amount to 85% of their GDP.

Britain might have 22 years to work on it, but they have other more pressing problems, like keeping the NHS and their pension plans funded through 2040.

Not if they can't bring the price down.

If the price doesn't come down, then in 2040, Britain will have to eat crow and rescind the law, or modify it.

 

Oil is HIGHLY subsidized in the US

 

It aint 2040 at the moment as well.

 

There are already electric cars. Freaking proof right there! lol

Has nothing to do with buying a car.

 

There's a major flaw with this use less diesel/petrol idea. Some 70%+ of the cost of fuel is tax. Less fuel sold, less tax receipts so the government will have to rob the public somehow to get lost revenue back.