Britain to ban sale of all diesel and petrol cars and vans from 2040

Why does this remind me of the collective asthma attack the right in America had over banning light bulbs

 

And this is why America is being left behind

 

It requires energy. Whether you get that energy from gasoline, diesel or electricity isn't really relevant.

The question is whether or not Britain's electrical grid can handle the increased load necessary to fuel all of those cars.

The US electrical grid could not, and the most recent estimate of costs to revamp the electrical grid, which means replacing all of the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, 1960s and 1970s components still in use at main-stations, sub-stations, switching stations and transformer stations to modern technology, and rewiring the grid (up to the residences and commercial structures but not rewiring the structures themselves), plus the additional high-tension power transmission lines was $3.7 TRILLION.

You currently don't even have the couple of $TRILLION necessary to keep Social Security from reducing benefits, so you're not going to have the money necessary for your electrical grid.

One reason electric/hybrid vehicles sell so poorly is their cost. Unless the cost comes down, no one is going to be buying them.

The other issue revolves around the technology itself. It's actually quite stupid to buy an electric/hybrid while the technology is evolving.

No one wants to buy a car and then have it be technologically obsolete 2 years later. Since you'll never be able to sell it, you'll have to drive it into the ground or junk it, and not too many people can afford to that.

 

Price of diesel might go down. Good deal. Let the EU suffer with this stupid decision.

 

Our monkeys want to be like their monkeys

Thats the whole idea behind globalism

 

Can anyone tell me where electricity comes from, to charge the cars?

It's not "just there." It's manufactured. Often by mega Thermal power stations and Water power plants.

The Thermal power stations generate electricity by burning coal, natural gas or other fossil fuel.

The Water power plants use the water mass from a water basin like a dam to generate electricity.

There is limitations. You can't just build dams everywhere and Water power plants. If that was the case everyone was gonna make dams all day, and people in their backyard too.

Everyone that believes electric cars can thrive alone and we don't need diesel, petrol or LPG cars is the biggest moron of all. Because usually this electricity is made by burning fuel or coal.

And nuclear power plants, they hide a lot of dangers. UK only has 15 to cover 65 million of population. Bulgaria has two. Switzerland has 5. Not nearly enough. Germany has 8. One nuclear power plant for 10 million people is pathetic.

 

I didn't make that promise and nor did you.

If you wish to make the same promise for yourself, you are welcome to.
It's a free country.
Make it, keep it or break it, all up to you.

 

Bollocks!
In 2040 most British will ride bikes and there will be virtually no cars.

 

Well, I heard the news from an co-worker. She would sale her brand new diesal car for the exact type but petrol powered. Quite stupid since the ban its set in 2040, lol. This is in the EU not UK so I suspect that this kind of law was first proposed (dunno if approved) at EU level.

She murmured something about high noxes from diesel compared to petrol and that she likes green forrests and clean air. I guess power to change is in the hands of individuals so I can't blame her.

About electric cars, who here has drove one? Commute to the big city? It's the shitiest experience ever, the driving anxiety is unbearable. You always keep an eye on the battery levels and always think about reaching or not your destination. ****ing stupid, like having 5% phone batery and need to make 10 phone meetings calls. It's not the time for electric cars yet.

This laws would pressure businesses to adapt and innovate.

 

Sounds like Lysenko pseudo science. It didn’t work out too well. Neither will this.

 

As noted in the OP... France will do the same thing. The Netherlands aims it to be 2030. Norway is at 2025. I think Germany got something as well. Not sure. They do got diesel free zones in cities. So that entire idea of an island is ideal... some countries don't care. They are just MAKING the auto industry change their ways in a way that they can sell cars, but just certain types. And it's fine if they chose to give the competition a head start if they don't join in. And it looks like European countries won't be able to buy backward American cars.

 

They got decades to solve it.

Hence this isn't happening tomorrow. The car industry is given 2 decades of time to evolve their stuff. After that, the company who accomplished the best will out competed the competition. And it's not just the UK, it's also France, Norway the Netherlands. Those are millions of customers who will end up with no choice but buy an electric/hybrid car, and so there is a market because there is a demand.

 

might? since when are oil prices going down in the long run? lol

 

They don't have an auto industry.

 

Remember when a 65 watt led bulb was $25?
Now about $1.25.
Look at all the cars we can charge when we get rid of all the old incandescents.

 

So are you ruling out a new power source?

 

Ah, no, you can’t force creativity nor innovation. Putting a gun to someone’s head and commanding “create” is a moral catastrophe which will lead to failure. Just like Lysenko’s genetics did.

 

Will the Chunnel become a hiking trail or a mushroom farm?

 

Absolutely. For now - there's nothing new.

 

Not necessary. At least part of the electricity can come from solar. Right now Australia is installing the equivalent of a large coal fired power plant every year just on people's roofs. Most of that power is generated at a time of day when it isn't needed. Put it into a battery & charge the car with it. This won't work as well in Europe due to less sunshine, but it is a part of the solution.

 

They'll be long gone from office by then (I effing hope!!), so they can really say any ridiculous sound bite they like which will garner a few votes from the gullibles at the next general election. That's how it is here now - all meaningless froth and no substance.

 

I dont agree with the gun comparison, more like put a pile of cash upfront for the takers. Europe's car market is one of the largest and who will adapt and innovate will take it.

Europe has one of the highest taxes on carbon emissions and motor sizes, sure you can have a V10 but you ll pay 10 times more than a Ford 1.0 liter ecoboost.

I believe hybrids are the best sold, goverments usually give a cut( where I live you get 10k for free for hybrids / electric cars plus awesome low tax)
Places like Sweden or Germany are full of electrics, but you need infrastructure to support it, and certain needs- like no need for a journey longer than 100 miles. Not my case

 

Globalism is good and the parts that make it are strongly interlocked...
*Westphalian principles: They are needed to bring multipolar phase because a uniform global governmental/political and economic system can only be feasible and endurable by the contribution of selected regional leaders. Hence American decline, and controlled withdrawal were necessary for encouraging regional actors to contribute the phase. It is also essential in this phase that the actors' contributions involve certain forms of adjustments and reforms socioculturally.
*Global warming and Technological development:
Tesla's rise with the introduction of electric vehicles came in this multipolar phase. This is PRed with the fears of global warming but what's more important is almost all oil rich states and their demanders have been in turmoil for a decade. Some commonalities are they are all dictatorships and their entire economies are oil dependent. German innovation (automation) is rendering them being exceptional among oil demanders.
Because all actors agree on the terms that define the workings of today's global economy, the correlation between both factors shows up generally as "political and sociocultural reforms", like in KSA, Iran, Russia, Venezuela, China...
We can further study these reforms in the said countries to assess if there's a significant pattern.

 

This technology might inspire them to change their idea on this......

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/is-this-the-answer-to-atmospheric-carbon.543753/
Is this the answer to atmospheric carbon?

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=2123268237703397

 

Yeah, they are great when you have the taxpayer subsidizing it. I got a $6k deduction for my hybrid. Ethanol gas chopped 10% off my gas mileage and when the dealer said that replacing my defective main battery pack would be $3k, I traded it in.