Almost Half of U.S. Births Happen Outside Marriage, Signaling Cultural Shift

Another finger-wagging morality post.

Note that I never said that it is a good thing that kids have no fathers. In fact, I am happily married since almost 20 years and have never been divorced, with two kids growing up with a dedicated father. I feel sad for those friends of my kids who go through divorce of their parents, unfortunately too many of them. BTW: Many of them from conservative households too.

I do not, however, feel the need to wag my finger at these folks in feigned outrage based on my own perceived superior morality, unlike what is displayed in this thread.

I also do not feel to be lectured on morality and family values by Trump voters, who have shown their utter disregard for values by voting for and supporting one of the most immoral human beings ever to "grace" the oval office.

 

I'm not making a moral judgement, so you can put that BS away.

I'm making a practical observation.

Don't let your moral outrage blind you to reality.

 

Why are you presuming that births outside marriage automatically mean the children aren’t raised in a “nuclear family” (and vice-versa for that matter), even if you’re asserting legal (religious?) marriage as a required aspect of a “nuclear family”?

How about this quote form he article, directly after the point you chose to cut off your extract (coincidence I’m sure );

As a substitute I agree. Government supporting the successful upbringing of children should be celebrated though.

 

No moral judgement, right? That's why you used the derogatory phrase of "screwing and popping out kids" instead of, for example, phrasing it like "Having children grow up without a father can hurt them". Don't give us the "practical observation" spiel, we know exactly what you meant.

 

Not as long as 'big brother' is paying the bills.

 

If I wrote **** ing, would that be better?

**** ing and popping out children is easy. That is a fact. Doing the right thing and making sure that child is in a stable environment, is not so easy. There is no moral judgement there.

Save your deflection to liberal memes for a time when you're making some effort to be honest.

 

progressivism

 

No, this thread is about the numbers of children born outside of marriage or, as it was once called in olden times, 'out of wedlock' - what a quaint phrase. Times have changed rapidly and significantly in the last 50+ years, people are not as constrained by dogma as before which results in less reliance on what might be considered old fashioned norms. The developed countries for sure have moved beyond old world norms and have, and still are, accommodating these societal changes. Those of a strong conservative bent are naturally upset, particularly if religion is involved.......a more in-depth look at this subject is linked below. I found it very interesting.

https://yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/out-wedlock-births-rise-worldwide

 

Ya, those "family value " campaign slogans sure disappeared when the righties elected Trump.


Trump, the epitome of family values of the Republicans... AMEN to that !!!

 

Marriage USED to be about improving the well being of children. Now its about establishing a secure home for two people to have sex together.

 

A baby is not a piece of paper.

 

So instead of discussing what is going on in our society and to our children being born out of wedlock you want to divert to Trump.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Ya, those "family value " campaign slogans sure disappeared when the righties elected Trump.


Trump, the epitome of family values of the Republicans... AMEN to that !!!

So he isn't your leader?

So you don't want to discuss the " whys" ?



So you don't want it pointed out that those who yell the most about society's "family " problems elected someone with no family values whatsoever?

 

I think this would be a good post to bookmark so that I can refer back to it when you trot out whataboutism with reference to Hillary and the 'left'.

 

NO where did he say a baby was a piece of paper.

Why would you say he posted that ???

 

Baloney....it's always been , for most people, about sex.

 

I would love to discuss what's going on in our society, but it seems that minds are made up: Feminists are undesirable creatures who are destroying men. Young women having children out of wedlock are sluts who are using the social safety nets to line their pockets. Marriage between a man and woman is the only real family, and children thrive in that environment.

What's to discuss?

 

Good post.

He did leave out the INCONVENIENT point:

""The data show such births in the U.S. and EU are predominantly to unmarried couples living together rather than to single mothers, the report says."""

 

I can see a parallel between marriage and christianity. As the ratio of marriage is on the decline so is the ratio of christians vs. athesits.

 

In my opinion, religious marriage was about religious groups having control over access to one of the few pleasures available to people back in the day. Unless you're married then no nookie.

 

Im referring to the governments perspective. Individuals marry for a wide variety of reasons.

 

And do you think they did that because they didn't want unmarried couples having orgasms together or because they didn't want unmarried couples having babies together.

 

The former absolutely.

In my opinion religion is all about control, by a small number of people, over a much larger number of people. Control of what they do, what they think what they eat and how, when, where and with whom they can play "hide sausage" (or equivalent)

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Baloney....it's always been , for most people, about sex.

It may have been the rule but it sure wasn't the practice!

 

You don't need a marriage for a baby