Federal Judge In Sentencing General Flynn Drops Bombshell On FBI!

This judge has a habit of denouncing the DOJ officials for criminal acts. But in the end he lets them skate.

 

Nothing to do with the issue at hand. Trained experienced agents did not believe Flynn was lying. As far as I know they had no reason to lie or to report other than what they observed.

 

First, and kind of a nit. Mueller wasn't around at the time.
Then of course there is the part of the Comey testimony everyone tries to leave out.
"That notwithstanding, they concluded he was lying.”
Then of course there is the little detail. He was lying.

 

Except when the condition of the perjury was outside of prescribe voir dire. Obviously, the investigators, and the prosecutors understand what they have done is illegal. Time to wrap up this crew and find nice comfy places for them in federal custody.

 

Of course, there isn the little detail that there wasn't a reason for him to not hide facts from the folks he was visiting with, was there? It wasn't like he was under pain of perjury, was he? So, the law on this is actually quite clear. He wasn't under any obligation to be entirely truthful if he felt he was protecting executive privileged events, just like when Obama used the same to cover his folks. Hmm. irony.

 

Of course Mueller says such; would you expect him to say, "We really hoodwinked the poor bastard!" Then of course Mueller does not explain that is not against the law to lie to an FBI agent if the agent is not conducting an official criminal investigation. That of course means that the subject has no idea, expectation, or hint that an official criminal investigation is taking place, which the FBI insured that Flynn was not aware of that. In common vernacular this is called a setup.

 

Oh enough with this soft coup bullshit defense.

All of these issues arise from TRUMP's behaviour. Perhaps you recall the only reason mueller is on the case is because Trump shoved his leg down his throat the day after he fired Comey by stating on national tv that he fired comey with the russia "hoax" on his mind. He further reinforced that the next day in the Oval Office with his "rid of the pressure" comment to Lavrov and Kysilak.

TRUMP HAS BROUGHT ON MOST OF THIS PAIN HIMSELF.

Seems everyone has to take personal responsibility for their words and actions, except your dear leader.

 

It was obvious to the investigators and anyone else who bothers to look into the facts that Flynn was not lying.
Entrapment - perjury traps amount to unethical prosecutorial misconduct.

 

Or entrapment, but in this case, the federal law is pretty clear. If the FBI didn't mirandize Flynn, they have zero foundation for the charge.

 

Can I assume you are referring to the illegally obtained tape recordings? Evidence that would be thrown out of most normal courts.

 

And liars are never able to fool the FBI or the judge or the jury. I don't think the FBI agents were lying. I think Flynn sounded and acted sincere. He had weeks to refine his covering lies as he repeatedly publicly declared prior to the interview.

The fact he seemed sincere is not exculpatory.

 

Yeah. Those are the ones. The ones they always make on the Ruskies. And low and behold when they unmasked this one they found the Trump aid chatting with him about sanctions.

 

Where do you get these magical mystical powers that concludes that Flynn was lying when those experienced trained FBI agents in the room did not believe he was lying.?

You think? And you don't think those trained experienced FBI agents are taught to recognize well rehearsed lies?

 

Amazing. Charged tried and convicted all in three sentences based on a tiny sliver of the overall facts.

Bye the bye - how exactly was the "condition of perjury" outside of "prescribed" voir dire? I just can't see any connection,

 

All he said is he didn’t believe tbey discussed sanctions. Hardly a lie, it couldn’t recall. There was a lot going on at the time. They never gave him a chance to refresh his memory, it’s obvious what he did say wasn’t that big a deal. Mueller is just desperate to try and get something on trump. It’s the definition of a witch hunt

 

Yes, in the best instance the judge can force reimbursement of all of Flynn's legal costs, and he could fine Mueller for egregious wrongful prosecution..... something Mueller is familiar with as he has been fined before for it.

 

He was not under arrest nor deprived of his freedom. He could have walked at any time.

 

mea culpa post removed.

 

FLYNN WAS ACCUSED OF LYING TO THE FBI BY MUELLER AND PLED GUILTY FOR IT TO MUELLER. Wake the hell up!

 

From your article.

Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, who arranged the bureau's interview with then-national security adviser Michael Flynn at the White House on Jan. 24, 2017 — the interview that ultimately led to Flynn's guilty plea on one count of making false statements — suggested Flynn not have a lawyer present at the session, according to newly-filed court documents. In addition, FBI officials, along with the two agents who interviewed Flynn, decided specifically not to warn him that there would be penalties for making false statements because the agents wanted to ensure that Flynn was "relaxed" during the session.

So, in other words, Flynn was too stupid to know that he could have a lawyer. Also, as a lieutenant general and the former head of the DIA, it seems that Flynn didn't know that lying to federal agents is a federal crime.

Is that what you are saying?

There is very little doubt that a man with Flynn's qualifications knew he could have a lawyer and knew lying was a crime. This is a false issue with no basis in fact.

 

There was no crime committed by Trump. There was no probable cause of any crime committed by Trump. There was no crime specified in Mueller's appointment letter. His worst behavior -- what got him into all this trouble -- was that he won the election. The coup then ensued.

 

At any point along the way Flynn could say "see you in court." He didn't. Because he was guilty, just like he pled.

 

Except for one little detail. Under the circumstances that Flynn understood the FBI conversation was taking place, it is not illegal to lie to an FBI agent. Feel free to quick -- sweep under rug, then burn.

 

Flynn did not commit any crime assisting trump and putin to steal the 2016 election from obama and hillary

On fact flynn broke no law at all except possibly mispeaking to the FBI

Mueller not nuthin’ on trump

 

But Mueller beat him to it with the initial, 'see you in court and prison unless you do what I tell you to do and say.'