Only 7 Black Students Got Into N.Y.’s Most Selective High School, Out of 895 Spots

Lower property taxes. My point still stands.

 

No, I'm a liberal who believes we should build fewer prisons and funnel the money into the public school system to ensure outstanding quality in all of our neighborhoods.

 

What was your point? We have the same point, lol. Why should zip code determine the education that you receive? Aren't we better than this as a nation?

 

Nope, nope, and nope. Check any nation which has comparatively poorly funded public selective high schools, and these schools will invariably have the best academic outcome in the nation. In my own country, our academic public schools outrank all others .. both private and public. AND they have some of the worst funding in terms of infrastructure, grounds, facilities, buildings, technology etc, because they need to fund the tenure of specialist teachers. And schools in this country don't provide meals.

Either way, none of the things you mention have any impact on a child's progress. A child (and his/her parents) determined to succeed will succeed. A child (and his/her parents) not invested in education will fail. That's where the buck stops.

 

It will do no such thing. The quality of your education is measured ONLY in your actual academic outcome. You could pour many many more millions into an already well funded system, and you'll get exactly the same result.

At some point you may actually come to realise that academic success isn't about race, or wealth, or geography. Unless of course, you DO think it's about those things .. which would make you anything but liberal.

 

These selective schools are OPEN TO ANYONE WHO WANTS IN. Anyone.

 

It costs nothing. Our kids did it and it cost us nothing but our own time. And yes, public libraries are very valuable tools. My husband and I spent many hours in same, when preparing for such tests.

 

What about it? My eldest is in a STEM course and tells us his cohort is about 10% white. Are you saying there should be more white folk in universities?

 

Exactly (my bold). But neither of those things cost a cent. ANY parent can improve their own elocution and vocabulary, and ANY parent can choose to take reading seriously. It's all free.

 

Public schools here significantly outrank private schools. AND they're almost all in crappy old premises, with not enough computers etc. Private schools here are not accessed for academic reasons (parents who take education seriously want their kids at selective public schools), they're chosen for 'other' reasons. Religion, family tradition, etc. Some even still think it makes them seem fancy, bless 'em.

 

That's all sports.
Including ones no one really cares about
What if we limit it to football and maybe basketball.

 

It's actually their useless parents. Children act out what they know.

 

Nope. I worked with refugee families at one point in my career. We're talking about people who were not only dirt poor, but who couldn't even speak English. Yet many managed to raise kids who went on to become doctors and lawyers etc. Why were they able to do it? They had the 'bleakest' lives imaginable. Loss of homeland, loss of all living relatives (often), war trauma, racism in their new country, no language, not much community, no money, nothing. The difference was that they recognised the incredible opportunity presented by public education, and took advantage of it. Even if they couldn't understand any of what their kids were studying, they had the sense to instill respect for education and hard work in their children, and it paid off.

 

There's your problem. Nothing to do with school funding. Want to fix it? Fix the damage done by Obama.

 

I believe I indicated that money is not the key factor.

 

And we should carry sunbeams in our trousers in case we ever run into sour-pusses who need to turn a frown upside down! Weeeeeee!!!!

If you reduce prisons without reducing crime, you will be in for a rude slap of common sense.

 

Why? To skew the results in support of your bias? No thanks.




"No one really cares about"????????

 

https://nypost.com/2018/01/27/cheating-still-rampant-at-disgraced-stuyvesant-school/
A whopping 97 percent of juniors said they had engaged in academic dishonesty, while 56 percent of freshman said they had already cheated after just four months in the school.

nuf said

 

I am saying that poor people have less time to help out their children to study, with their own personal time or by paying for a tutor. I thought I was rather clear on that in my previous post.

 

Oops, so basketball and football GPA-s would skew the results?

No one cares about La Crosse but,
neighbor's kids use it for athletic scholarships.
I bet they raise the athlete GPA.

And the money involved is another matter.
No doubt corrupting.


Moi
soccer who cares

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Nonsense. You clearly don't know many wealthy people, if you think they work light hours. Whether in their own business, or a Corporate office, the hours are invariably very long. And once again, ALL of us have a choice to make with whatever time we have available outside of work. We can watch tv, or we can sit with our children and go through their homework with them.

 

It doesn't compare well one bit when you compare this to, 2 low paying jobs. You're not going to kid anybody with this rubbish.

Here... have an example:
https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/09/tesla-worker-long-hours-low-pay-and-unsafe-conditions/

He commutes from Manteca, spending three hours a day in his vehicle, and can put in 60-70 hours per week.

Lets say he works 6 days a week. So that's 10 hours at work + 3 hours in his car. A total of 13 hours invested in working. Leaves 9 hours to sleep, cook, dishes, groceries etc. You think the guy got the time and energy to sit down with 2 children and help with homework?

HA!

 

Ignoring the vast, vast majority of sports deliberately and dishonestly misrepresents the case. I think you know that.

 

Lots and lots of people care about lacrosse. It is one of the fastest growing sports in terms of popularity. Stop trying to misrepresent the situation. Student athletes work hard, harder than their non-athlete counterparts in almost every case. Student athletes are students. Athletics is an important part of education at every level and it is not going to change due to your personal bitterness, wherever it comes from.

 

Lacrosse ends at college. There’s no future in it. Sure there is professional lacrosse but it’s a B or C sport, like Badminton.

A Coworkers kid is heavy into lacrosse and has joked that his son can at least shoot for a scholarship in that, because it’s not coming from his grades Its his only ace in the hole.

Can’t really say I knew anyone who even cared about Lacrosse in college either. But that was 20+ Yrs ago. I know it’s more popular now. Don’t see it on TV though.