ISIS has come to implement Islam, by the book,

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Is it a shock that Fox has long been engaging in its war on Muslims through lackies like Jeneane Pirro and Carlson ?
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you mean Fox News then say Fox News. I'm really not interested in your opinions.
     
  3. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Opinions ?
    You mean facts. Keep up with current events..
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    https://www.newstimes.com/entertain...ot-on-Fox-lineup-week-after-Omar-13695133.php

    Only when her comments begins to lose advertises does she get suspended. Fox, Fix or Faux.....it’s all the same. Except for a couple of non prime time News castors who try to remain ligit, Fox stokes the fires of fear mongering for its prime time viewers nightly.
     
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  4. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    You should try to back up claims.
    It won't look like you are making things up.
     
  5. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Muslims aren't out to rule the world.
    My religious freedoms are expressed at the ballot box. So no, I am not going back.
    What victims of Islam are you referring to? How do you suggest we fix those issues? If it's gays in Brunie, what is your suggestion?
    If it's victims in the USA, what victims?
    Do you think our constitution can't withstand attacks on it? It has been holding up for 250 yrs so far.
    It will be extremely hard for a religion to gain hold of our laws. In fact, over the last 50 yrs or so, we have become more secular with the advancement of rights of those the religious right always wanted to keep underground.
    So I don't see another religion coming in here making laws.

    You think political freedoms and religious freedoms are equal? Both equally protected under the constitution? Why?
    Are you for limiting freedoms of people that have an idea different from yours?
     
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  6. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Actually that's not true.

    It's not gonna happen, but that is their goal as is written in the
    Qur'an and sunnah.

    Islam is the "religion of peace",
    what they don't tell you is that the peace comes after they kill everyone else and all the world is Islam.
     
  7. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    That is just your opinion that they kill everyone. 2.2B of them or 1.8B and yet 99.9% are not out killing in the name of Islam.

    BTW - where is your proof 15-25% will be terrorists and that others will follow?


    It's the Christian goal also. It is written.


    Matthew 28:18-20

    "And Jesus came up and spoke to them saying, 'All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.' And He said to them, 'Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. ...and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you: He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but He who has disbelieved shall be condemned. Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer and rise again from the dead the third day; and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem."
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Ain't religion grand.

    I think the big difference here is preaching the gospel, as opposed to killing all in your way.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Here is your claim. Without proof. Wiki you tell me to use doesn't back you up.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Again, your opinion.
    I am not seeing in any grand fashion, killing your way. And christianity has a bloody past when trying to spread it's word.
    And if secularism doesn't take the forefront, they can easily go back to their bloody past.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    How is that an opinion.
    You posted a quote telling to preach.

    Would you like me to post a quote telling to kill.
     
  12. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Because, obviously in the past, preaching wasn't the only method.

    Where is this 15-25% terror of muslims you claim? Obviously your opinion.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Actually I offered one but you didn't want to hear it.
     
  14. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    You stated wiki.
    Wiki didn't confirm your claim.
    You can't confirm your claim.
    I should heed your advice and not feed the troll.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    I think you need to look back on what was posted.
    I certainly am not.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To continue the story - Arming and supporting Al Qaeda and other Islamist Jihadists of the same ilk in Syria - which led to the death of over 500,000, the refugee crisis and the rise of the modern incarnation of ISIS.... along with toppling Gadaffi which turned Libya into a Jihadist wonderland.

    You are 100% about El Saud. Taliban, ISIS, Al Qaeda/Al Nusra, Islamic Front, Muslim Brotherhood, Al Shabaab, Boko Haram, and numerous other similar groups such as the wing nuts in Pakistan and other places in the world "ALL" follow the Saudi inspired Salafi Islamist extremist ideology.

    El Saud has been exporting this ideology around the world for decades - as well as arming and supporting these groups.
     
  17. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    The real facts are, we have more far right terrorism incidents then Islamic in the US. Are you shipping those 20k Muslim doctors back ? Did you support invading Iraq and creating ISIS ?
    America looking in the mirror will find as much blame for terrorism as they will looking at Islam alone. We’ve been exporting Christianity around the world for decades too. All religions are factless. Maybe we should be exporting more good Will and medical and food aid.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are all over the place in this post.

    1) I agree that we have far right terrorism - probably more than Islamist (not Islamic - important to use proper terminology as to not label all Muslims with the Islamist Brush)

    2) Not all Muslims are Islamists - It is the Islamist's who should be shipped back.

    3) Where on earth do you get the idea that I supported the invasion of Iraq - a War based on Lies which killed 5000 US soldiers, wounded tens of thousands, and cost trillions of dollars.

    4) Yes - The US and Saudi Arabia are the #1 State sponsors of Terrorism in the world - not Iran

    5) There is a difference between exporting "Christianity" or "Islam" and exporting "radical Islamist ideology" you should learn this difference. That said - I agree that all religions are feckless but this has little to do with the topic.

    6) definitely we should be exporting more good Will. The fact of the matter is that our foreign policy is conducted on the basis of economic interest - not on trying to promote peace and democratic values.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Muslims are people, Islam is a religion. Muslims are people who practice or follow Islam. Muslims are not a race, anymore then Catholics are a race. Islamism can be extreme version of Iskam
    Like born again Christians who revert back to the Old Testament can be extreme. You want to ship Islamists back, send “born agains” with them.
     
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    Just like we don't say all nazis were evil, necessarily. Just those who followed that ideology to the tee.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    And the smaller percentage of Nazis, controlled the larger percentage of Germans.
    Hitler had a fascination with Islam.
    Not for the religion, but for the control of the people.
    He said they make the perfect soldier, wanting to die in battle.
     
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    Mr Yasureoktoo, if I may ask; How do you think we should properly deal with Islam, as a worldwide phenomena?
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    IMO. Education.
    Stop bullsh-tting the public and blaming everything else.
    We cannot address a problem unless we first acknowledge one exists/.
    There is too much money involved and we cannot condemn a nation for their religion without slapping our friendly Islamic country in the face.
    But realisticly we have no Islamic nations as friends, Hell Saudi Arabia brought us 9/11,, Boston,, and the next one.

    We need to put the religion on TV.
    A question and answer session with Islamic scholars from both sides.
    We need to get the public educated about it.

    Hell, we can't even vote on something Islamic if none of the voters know anything about the religion.

    We are lucky in the way we will see Europe explode first, It will make people think,
    We can even see the problems Europe is having right now.
     
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    How do we find the Islamic Scholars?
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Robert Spencer
    Jay Smith
    Patrica Crown
    Bershewitz
    Ibn Warriq.

    There are lots of them now.
    There are others that are well versed in the religion but I doubt they are scholars, like
    Bridgett Gabriel
    Pam Gheller

    The problem with the mainstream public is that it you mention their names,
    People go..He's Islamophobic,, the answer all statement.

    Realistically anyone who reads about the religion will hate it.
    Except the Psycopaths of course


    and the funny thing is that anyone who reads the religion, comes up with the exact same conclusion.
     
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