ISIS has come to implement Islam, by the book,

Of course not. It doesn’t because you have no idea what the big picture motivation is and nor do I. So let’s get off the idea you really know what temporary decisions in Syria are or even if they are truthful when coming from Faux. One thing is for sure, we have more Muslims fightin* with us in the middle east then against us. So let’s get off the diatribe of Muslim extremism and I’m the idea that Muslim moderates are key to terrorism like Christian moderates were for moderating the IRA and are now for far right terrorism here. You’re trivial little made up arguments mean little.

 

Glad you managed to get on topic. I completely agree that the Muslim Moderates are the key to fighting terrorism

That said - you do not have the faintest idea what you are talking about with respect to the Syrian Rebels.

The problem of Syria is that we were fighting against the moderates. We were fighting against the side that the Christians were on (and any other religious group that was not Islamist extremist).

Why would you bring up Faux ? Fox didn't report this in any detail - and especially not after ISIS went off its Leash in Syria and went into Iraq .. an action which necessitated Obama's "moderate rebel lie". Fox did not challenge this Establishment false narrative. Neither did CNN - MSNBC.. They were all together in propping up this Establishment false narrative.

What have I "Made Up" ?... what a joke. You have not done any research into the Syrian issue - YET - when you come across information that happens to conflict with some partisan political belief you have in relation to Syria - your immediate reaction is to cover eyes, ears and go running to the playground screaming "its all made up" .. NO NO NO NO NO" followed by sticking head deep in the sandbox of denial.

This behavior is beyond pathetic.

It is not some big secret that the CIA were involved in Arming and Supporting Al Qaeda and the other Jihadist groups of the same ilk that coalesced into the modern incarnation of ISIS.

It is not some secret that we were on the same side of the war as Al Qaeda and ISIS - and that these groups were the main factions - the others being much smaller but following the same ideology and/or fighting under the banner AQ/ISIS.

It is not some big secret that there were no "moderates' of any significance in the rebel opposition.

 

Moving on.

 

A response where you did not call names and make strawman arguments !! A nice improvement on your previous posts.

 

So what's a "moderate"???.
Is that someone who just beats you up instead of killing you.
Where are the pacifists

And why would a religion have to make such a distinction in their sheep.


So all we have is "evil" and "partially evil"

 

I have told you what a moderate is - and my definition is not just related to Muslims but all humans - at least 10 times now.

If you did not manage to get it the first 10 times - what is the point of repeating myself for the 11th time ?

 

You never told me what a moderate is.
BTW, I know what people think moderates are so it is unlikely I would have even gotten into that conversation with you.
LOLOL

So you told me what a moderate was 10 times huh.

bulllllllsh-t.

 

Someone who respects the difference between 1) having a belief and 2) forcing that belief on others through physical violence (Law).

 

The word "Moderate ", as used in Islam, indicates they are not quite as bad.
Other religions never identified themselves as "Moderate
, indicating this is only applicable to Islam.

This might actually make a good thread, and get different peoples opinions.

 

mod·er·ate
[moderate]
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antonyms:
great · massive · outrageous · unreasonable · unreasonable ·
immoderate

• (of a person, party, or policy) not radical or excessively right- or left-wing.
  "a moderate reform program"
  synonyms:
  dispassionate · nonextreme · middle-of-the-road · nonradical ·
  equitable · impartial
  antonyms:
  extreme

NOUN
moderates (plural noun)

1. a person who holds moderate views, especially in politics.

VERB
moderates (third person present) · moderated (past tense) · moderated (past participle) · moderating (present participle)

1. make or become less extreme, intense, rigorous, or violent.
   "I shall not moderate my criticism" ·
   abate · let up · calm down · lessen · grow less · decrease ·
   diminish · slacken · ebb · recede · dwindle · weaken · subside · curb · control · check · keep in check · keep under control · hold in · temper · regulate · restrain · restrict · subdue · still · damp · repress · tame · break · lessen · deaden · decrease · lower · reduce · diminish · remit · mitigate · alleviate · allay · appease · assuage · ease · palliate · soothe · soften · calm · modulate · pacify · mellow · mince · tone down
   antonyms:
   get up · increase · exacerbate · aggravate
2. (in academic and ecclesiastical contexts) preside over (a deliberative body) or at (a debate).
   "a panel moderated by a Harvard University law professor"
   synonyms:
   chair · take the chair of · preside over · arbitrate · mediate · referee ·
   judge
   • preside; act as a moderator.
3. monitor (an Internet forum or online discussion) for inappropriate or offensive content.
4. physics
   retard (neutrons) with a moderator.

 

Not even sure what you are trying to get at here - The definition of Moderate - as used in a political context - is a Muslim who is not an Islamist. An Islamist is a Muslim who believes in forcing religious beliefs on others through physical violence = Sharia Law.

The whole "Call to Jihad" in Syria was based on the desire to turn Syria into a strict Sharia Theocracy. This includes hatred for "Secularism" - separation of Church and State - where the legitimate authority of Gov't comes "we the people" rather than from God.

Syria is a "Secular" Muslim nation. They do not have strict sharia - do not impose Sharia Law on people. There is no cutting off hands for theft, no stoning adulterers and killing gays.. no death penalty for apostasy. Women do not need permission from a man to be educated .. they drive cars. They wear short skirts and proper bathing suits.

There is drinking alcohol and dancing in bars (as in it is legal). There are Christian Churches and freedom of religion. Assad has Christian Generals in his army.

The people of Syria ( who are mostly Muslim) that want to keep these freedoms are the "Moderates". The people that want to take these freedoms away are the extremist Islamist's.

So in the context of this conflict - those on the side of freedom are the moderates - those who are not on the side of freedom are not.

 

What I am getting at is the words that did not exist before Muslim problems, putting people into catagories, that cannot be correctly defined.
There is a thread on this.
I am sure people would appreciate your input