ISIS has come to implement Islam, by the book,

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  1. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    And websites like Robert Spencer's and Bill Warner will answer questions you write in.
     
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    Shun them.
    Banish them.
    Isolate them.
    Embargo/sanction them.
    Let them boil in their own "superior" religious stew.
    Until they see the true nature of Islam and their real image in the mirror.

    Pardon me, I answered a question that wasn't asked personally to me. :)
     
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    So all 20k Muslim doctors, Mohamed Ali, Shaq and thousands of US Muslim soldiers can stay ? Good.

    But Gee, I’d say all nazis ARE evil, necessarily.
    But, you say some nazi sympathizers are OK people ? So, Americans who are nazis are OK to believe in fascism and white supremist if not carried too to a tee ? So, what’s the “ T” limit ? You’re begining to make moderate Islam look good in comparison.
    We’re beginning to see the mind of a Trump supporters ?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You would?
    Well, then you're not so unlike all those people who think all muslims are evil, are you?

    Just two sides of the same coin. Thanks for playing.
     
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    Kareem Abdul Jabba is evril ?
    To compare him and the 5000 in the military, tens of thousands of healing doctors with the Nazi standard of beliefs of white supremacy, facsim and the tacid support of the extermination of millions, is rediculous. There are thousands of Muslims in our country who fight for our constitutional rights. Ther are moderate Muslims, There are no moderate Nazis. By definition, it’s a radical political group. Their foundamental beliefs are about radical political radical activism that supported racialism and extermination.

    That you would support Nazism in any form is repulsive.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think your argument is being obviously disingenuous.

    I could flip the comparison in reverse and it would be just as valid.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you know this how? A Muslim told you? You're offering your feelings as a substitute for fact. Read and listen to what they say.
    That's not usually a religious experience.
    This format you've chosen makes it difficult to respond. What victims??
    There have been changes to the Constitution during that period and losing leftists are asking for changes again.
    You don't seem too understand that Islam is not just a religion, it's also a political and legal movement.
    You're still unaware of what's going on, and that's obvious from your first sentence.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They make Islamophobia seem like a bad thing.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Policing the mosques would also help and not be sympathetic to anything Islamic in our schools. We should recognize Islam for what it is.

    Instances similar to this are going on in all of the democracies. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/educati...not-allow-girls-eat-lunch-boys-have-finished/
     
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    Sure it would (sarcasm)
    Great example Mr. sympathizer. But keep talking. Your president snaps his fingers and there are “good Nazis “ everywhere. So how many Nazis in our military and how many Nazi doctors, healthcare providers are there . That’s ludicrous.
     
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    I always said, if every American was forced to sit down and read the Sirat Rasual Allah,
    every mosque in the country would be burnt down within a week.
     
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    Well maybe not, but the country might at least do a double take on whether it's really "the religion of peace".
     
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    Islam is the religion of peace".
    What they don't tell you, ( Kitman, Lying by omission ) is that the peace comes only after they kill everyone else, and all the world is Islam.

    But wait, a monkey wrench.

    After they kill everyone, they have the different sects of Islam to deal with.
    They have to kill the "Bad Muslims".

    who are the "Bad Muslims" you ask, simple answer... the other ones.

    But wait, another monkey wrench.
    They need Dhimines, (Slaves) so they will leave a certain percentage of non- Muslims, who are protected and retain their own religion
     
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    Oh that’s great. How much more violence can you incite. Just because Trump gives you permission ? Meanwhile, he’s taking your healthcare while you incite out if fear. Trumpets are so predictable.
     
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    You are not paying attention. Why have you gone on about "race" when I do not even mention race ?

    Once someone is a citizen - they are a citizen - and can not be shipped anywhere. The point is that we should not be letting "Islamists" into this nation.

    Further - I do not distinguish between Islamist's and Fundamentalists (you use the term born again) who engage in political activism on the basis of religious belief = try to make laws on the basis of religious belief - as outlined in my previous post.

    This is not a religious test. Either one has respect for the founding principles - that essential liberty is "Above" the legitimate authority of Gov't - or one does not. If one "Hates" essential liberty - as Islamist's and extremist Fundamentalists do - want to force religious belief on others through physical violence (Law) this is human garbage in my books.

    This test does not just apply to making law on the basis of religious belief - this applies equally to "Anyone" regardless of race, color, religion - who wants to force personal belief on other through physical violence (Law) - sans legitimate justification. This would include Nazi and other totalitarian extremists.

    This would also include those who want to make law on the basis of "Utilitarian" justification.
     
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    With a college education rate twice that of Americans,..not letting Muslims in, isn’t happening. Deal with it.
    There just isn’t enough “ poorly educated” Trump supporters to fill the jobs we need. If more if them would just get off their asteroids and educate themselves instead of looking for coal mining jobs, maybe keeping !muslims out might have merit. It just doesn’t because American corps need more brain power then the right can provide. The left is doing it mistky with little help from righties.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not sure if you have reading comprehension issues or are just being obtuse for the joy of it. Regardless - I have never argued that Muslims should not be let in. Building a strawman - accusing me of things I did not say or infer - so you have something to attack - is not an argument for much.

    The second fallacy you commit is appeal to popularity/authority. Just because raging masses are stupid - or the law is stupid - does not change the fact that Islamist ideology violates the founding principles.

    If you think it is OK for people to force religious beliefs on others through physical violence (Law) - you are welcome to your belief. I just do not share it. Neither is this complete lack of respect for essential liberty in keeping with the founding principles.
     
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    Nearly 2.2B reasons why.
    Who said it needs to be a religious experience.
    The victims of Muslim/Islam being claimed.
    It's not a political movement. It's a religion, where some countries adopted the religion to base it's laws on. Unless you want to claim Christianity is a political movement. Secularism a political movement.
    I am aware of what's going on. Your right to choose your religion is protected by the constitution. Your right to belong to a political party, not so much. But perhaps you have a different opinion you don't want to share?
     
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    Islam is an Arabic word which means "surrender, submission, commitment and peace." Thus, Islam can be defined as a path to attain complete peace through voluntary submission to the divine will.
    https://uri.org/kids/world-religions/muslim-beliefs

    Now go post a islamic hate site definition. Because that is what you seem to be basing your opinion on.
     
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    Islam is close to 100 % political.
    Non muslims are sheep to be shorn.
    All of the countries laws and courts are from the Qur'an and sunnah.
    Non muslims cannot testify in muslim courts.
    I could post the basics of Sharia Law here but it would take the whole page.
     
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    Islam means “submission to the will of God.
    Submission to their definition of God.
    Now, what God are you talking about.
    A God that orders all non muslims to be enslaved or killed.
    A God that makes Muhammed his last prophet.
    Muhammed, a murder, thief, rapist, slave trader, sexual pervert, and a slew of other adjectives.
    I could really go on this one.

    Submission is for control of the sheep.
    Read your Qur'an, be a good muslim, don't make waves or we will kill you.


    Now go to some made for westerners, muslim apologist website and claim otherwise.
     
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    That’s what I was responding to.
     
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    Islam is an Arabic word which means "surrender, submission, commitment and peace." Thus, Islam can be defined as a path to attain complete peace through voluntary submission to the divine will.
    https://uri.org/kids/world-religions/muslim-beliefs

    Only people who have boogie men under their beds believe you.
    To sane people, you speak untruths.
     
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    You are talking nonsense. What is the divine will.
    You need to establish that first.
     
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    Deuteronomy 17-2
    We have a religion that demands stoning for the some of the same offenses Islam condems. Pick your poison. But Christian born again apologists that support Christian backed terrorist groups don’t see through their blinders.

    And, Mormonism was founded by practicing polygamist, incest and statutory rapists.

    The Catholic Church continues to give token rebuke to an epidemic of priest pedophiles.

    Name a religion that wasn’t farcical.
     

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