Won't Leave? Well then do this america haters.

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  1. thoughtprocess

    thoughtprocess Well-Known Member

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    It’s not what I care about at all. Trump is an outlier, a stooge, a mark. Mitch McConnell is the true threat. People like bannon who go across the world promoting hate. The corporations that are in complete control. The good cops who just want to keep their jobs and why do we pay cops so poorly for that to be a factor. The schools that don’t have a/c. The water we drink. The food we eat. The rights being stripped away. Trump on my mind is merely a splinter and when I get off from doing real work I’ll deal with it.
     
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    So ask such people like Ilhan Abdullahi Omar for example how they feel about the Jewish people for an instance. You will get a very fine sample of "tolerance", "understanding" and "American patriotism". Or ask them how they feel about the people who dare to worry about mass immigration.
    Those "supporters of democracy" come from corruption infested country, if they would have lived there they would have been happy to get married with corrupt politicians and to enjoy a better life by driving other people poor, but they come to the West, they get paid by the bankers and they promote hate against the people who dare to disagree with them.
    They are really dangerous people, just like the politicians in the countries where they come from.
    It is unpleasant indeed to get to the point where the president invites such people to go back. Yet that helps the public to understand how difficult the situation is pretty much everywhere in the world and how big is the danger for the West to go down to the same level of poverty like those poor countries where such people come from.
    Because the people like Ilhan Omar will never stop until they see USA transformed into another Honduras.
     
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    thoughtprocess Well-Known Member

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    i thought it’s was Venezuela? And outsourcing and automation and the fact that Americans don’t want to get on a roof and work in field 10 hrs in 100 degree heat has nothing to do with poverty. past and present it’s people like Omar’s fault for blowing the whistle.
     
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    First off....if they require voting I.D. it is for everyone correct? How could that be an effort to suppress any one group?
    This is how government works.....get used to it. Especially if you plan to vote Democrat. They only intend to grow more government so get used to it!
     
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    Does that mean that a guy named Donald would go back to the roots of his grandfather, Germany , were Nazism was founded and loved and leave the Home Of The Brave where freedom was founded loved? Oh MY!!!!
     
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    A mark? So you agree he was the target of an attempted coup. Good.
     
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    When Obama won a second term.
     
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    Look basically judges time after time has said it does. Whereas you hear politicians creating laws that get smacked down. And they do it strategically. They will wait for an election to make said laws that are unconstitutional so a judge won’t have time to overturn it before an election. So even the lawmakers who create those unconstitutional laws know that their bills are crap. They are just manipulating the system. Right now do you hear Mitch McConnell talking of voter fraud. But wait til the election. And voting machines are owned and operated by republican lobbyists look it up. Mitch has his hand directly in that as well.
     
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    Lol no I’m saying ask Kim Kardashian and Kanye west.
     
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    You just can't pin it down can you. Where is the voter suppression? Perhaps giving Drivers licenses to non-citizens is a start. Does that concern you?
     
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    Ok I gave you examples of voter suppression that effects thousands yet you have yet to give me an example of voter fraud. But here is another example. Out of state college sophomore and ones in their last year. They move to a state, pay state taxes, and work part time there. Laws were created by republicans that say they can’t vote here because they are not from here, go back home to vote. And they can’t go there because they don’t live there. Voter suppression. I can do more but it seems you already forgot the other examples so I want to focus on one at a time. We can clear all this up by saying every citizen born here is registered to vote as soon as they turn 18.
     
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    How exactly does requiring proof of citizenship serve to suppress voters in the united states? Do not show that a judge states such, rather explain how such actually works. What individuals who are citizens are actually devoid of proof of said citizenship?
     
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    Again show me proof illegals are committing mass voter fraud. And they know they will be put in cages and treated worse than terrorist so I expect it will be very hard for you. In principle a voter ID bill should be an easy effort with no judges involved. So yes the people who craft the bills are the issue and the reasons that they do it. Those people are republicans. So if they craft bills that even judges cant swallow then they are either incompetent or up to no good. And those are the people that one might put their faith in and all I can do is shake my head. I can give more instances off voter suppression but at this point why should I. Only questions of me and not ones of yourself is always boring.
     
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    Such does nothing to even attempt to address the questions that were presented.

    Once again, how exactly does requiring proof of citizenship serve to suppress voters in the united states? Do not show that a judge states such, rather explain how such actually works. What individuals who are citizens are actually devoid of proof of said citizenship?
     
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    Ok I have already stated ( with a shoulder shrug) OK yes voter ID just send it to me in the mail. Meaning simplify it. It is not necessary to spend millions of dollars to investigate 50 states to find cases to try and prove it. And with the patriot act it is ridiculous to assume that the government doesn’t know who is a citizen and who is dead or not. Its not the idea of voter ID that is suppressive it’s the oppressors using that idea to control our one true right. So again do you really want me to source judges rulings that are easy to access because of the freedom of information act? Or do you have a point and source yourself to be argued?
     
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    And so should you! He is destroying our country and it should bother you. He has succeeded in making it “us and them”. The fact that you are indifferent to the dangers of this narcissistic pathological liar should bother you but he knows his base and how to appeal to them with fear and hate
     
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    What is wanted is a proper explanation for why requiring someone to demonstrate that they are a citizen of the united states before allowing them to cast votes in their elections, could in any way constitute an effort at voter suppression. Proof of citizenship is not that difficult of a hurdle to cross, unless the one seeking to take part in the voting process is an illegal alien and is devoid of said proof of citizenship. Those are the only individuals who cannot meet such a low burden of proof, and as they are illegal aliens they have no right to vote in elections.
     
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    No, he's not. You just made that nonsense up.
     
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    They have inside information on an attempted coup?
     
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    Isn’t it amazing that they believe illegals will risk deportation and huge fines for one vote?
     
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    That’s the trouble with Trumpers. they don’t believe what they hear he has said that the media is his enemy and the democrats are enemies and Are unpatriotic etc. He is shown saying these things and his tweets say these things but his base denies them.. He manipulates by fear and hate and you have bought into it. I don’t know any neo-Nazis there are some good people. Obviously we have different values
     
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    Have to ask the Jews who voted for Omar. Let me explain something to you, not all Jews support what Israel does. But I guess all those good people marching chanting “Jews will not replace us” are Democrats (sarcasm alert)
    And to me what is most frightening is people like you justifying the president telling American citizens to go back where they came from just because they are not white. Why don’t you go back where you came from.? What is interesting is you see Honduras as such a terrible place but yet you don’t want to help the people that are fleeing from it,
     
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    The trouble for you is we see right through your nonsense.
     
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    The trouble With you is that you don’t see the nonsense even when it’s recorded and tweeted.Trump knows his base. He said they would defend him no matter what. He has lied over 10,000 times and they are checked and rechecked and are proven and yet you don’t see the lies as nonsense. Instead you defend them He Talks to his base like they are stupid.if I spoke to my students like that I would be fired. Imagine if I called a student fatso or pencil neck.imagine if I encouraged kids to bully other kids the Only kids that would like that would be the losers who want to identify with the bully,
     
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    Yet the Muslims in general are very intolerant and racists. I have Muslim Arab friends and I know very well how they speak about the Jewish people. Sadly, it is part of their culture to speak very bad about the Jewish people in general.

    This is a big, huge untruth. It has nothing to do with their race.

    I do not promote ridicule and hate towards the people disagree with me. Everything I did in my life was to run away from the people who create so much corruption and human suffering.

    I do want to help them. I expressed my views on this topic since 2016 on my blog - The things I don’t like in the West - and three months ago on my other blog: Solutions: (..) Stop the mass immigration because it’s creating more poverty and more social tensions. Stop stealing from the poor countries and help those people to get a better life in their own countries. This is the real solution: help the world to become a better place to be instead of bringing the entire world to the West. (..)

    The real solution to the immigrant crisis is to help them to get a better life in their own countries. The West has enough power to pressure the poor countries to start to remove the corruption.
    There is not much time left. The very idea of empires surrounded by second-hand, weak and poor nations was created by the financial elites, in order to convince the politicians to maintain the people on entire continents in deep poverty. The very idea of creating and maintaining empires was designed in order to help the financial elites to collapse the entire world in deep poverty, including the empires themselves.
    Today the people of this world start to understand that we need peace and cooperation if we are going to survive as a civilization and as a race. Today, the people are ready for a peaceful coexistence.
     
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