The Walmart Shooting

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Except the cop that was on scene who did. And for that matter, anyone in the vicinity that was armed could have as well. But hey, nothing to fear right? Why even have cops?
     
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    The nitwits chirping about how a "good guy with a gun" (an argument not talking about cops) seem to have forgotten that fact. Not to mention most people who are "packing" would pee down their leg when the shooting starts.
     
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    So folks don't have an inherent right to defend themselves? Because, why? It offends you?
     
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    Isolated personal attacks are rare?
    How very interresting
     
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    No defense?
    Hyperbole much?
     
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    Not afraid? Great, then definitely no need to change anything
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He’s not crazy, just reacting to what he’s been told, by both Left and Right:

    1) Man’s success is causing a climate change which endangers the planet and human existence.

    2) Capitalists are raping and looting the Earth into a barren wasteland.

    3) Free markets have failed us because greedy SOB CEOs care more about profit than they do for humanity.

    4) Immigrants are invading our land from the south raping and murdering our mothers and sisters, stealing jobs from our fathers and brothers, and replacing our culture as our ancestors did to the Indians.

    He concludes therefore, there’s no future for any because there is too many of all. Time to do some thinning. So he did. The joke is on the intellectuals that preach this moral nonsense, the tragedy is that it’s the innocent who pay the worst price.
     
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    In what way are cops not supposed to be good guys with guns? And more to the point, in El Paso, how long did it take, again, for local PD to show up and engage? 6 Minutes? and the final clear wasn't given until around 20 minutes into the event? I understand just how unwilling you are to admit that being prepared is a good thing. Worse, it seems that you can't now even give cops the benefit of the doubt as to whether they are good or not.. The observation still stands, unless someone else actively engages the shooter, more folks die. Is that really what you want?
     
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    Utter nonsense, so then buyung insurance is only necessary in third world countries?
     
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    Well, I know Baltimore like the back of my hand, and I’ve been to all the other places you mentioned, too.

    I don’t see any groundswell of calls for packing heat from the citizens of any of them.
     
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    I have no idea what point you’re trying to make.

    If you want to live in fear, and listen to the ex disc jockey on the radio tell you to be afraid of anyone who doesn’t look just like you, that’s your right.

    Just don’t ask me to endorse it.

    I won’t live like that.
     
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    Being 'offended' aside, innocent folks have a reasonable expectation, if not right, not to be killed injured or maimed by non-law enforcement armed civilians in a mass shooting situation.
     
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    Certainly not from the basic act. However, the right person in the right place could take such a person out in 5 seconds. Possible, far from likely.
     
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    Good for you
     
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    That must be a new record for taking a post out of context!
     
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    "I don't see" is nothing more than opinion
     
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    The cops were right there

    30 seconds. 40 people shot
     
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    It's also a violation of site rules
     
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    Cops aren't always the most responsive. Regardless, a mentally disturbed person (doesn't have to be certifiable crazy- just hostile and convinced that it's rational to punish others for his frustration) is either an immediate or a potential threat. Seems we have little interest in controlling the such people- then wonder why these things happen. Always somebody else's fault.
     
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    30 seconds is pretty damn responsive...and again...all countries have mental illness...We have mass shootings so often because we have easy access to military style weapons
     
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    Do you then deny those same folks a reasonable expectation that they could also defend themselves as a right they also enjoy? You seem to feel like folks are just safe. And that nothing bad, or unforeseen might ever happen to them And your position then is what? That it just shouldn't ever happen? And if it does, you're just supposed to what? Die? That seems remarkably tone deaf on your part.
     
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    The gun items are locked up and you would need the keys to release them, in the time it would take to load a weapon you'd be dead.
     
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    The road to victimhood is paved with exactly this kind of thinking...
     

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