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Again:

VICE, The US Has Found a New Way to Keep Immigrant Families Locked Up, By Meredith Hoffman, September 21, 2015.
https://news.vice.com/article/the-us-has-found-a-new-way-to-keep-immigrant-families-locked-up

"Crime against humanity" or not?

 

You seem to be denying the obvious - again.

VICE, How US Immigrant Detention Facilities Get Away with Being Complete Hellholes, By Meredith Hoffman, October 21, 2015.
https://news.vice.com/article/how-u...lities-get-away-with-being-complete-hellholes

 

The Nation, The Atlantic, MoJo, Vice are not "rightwing blogger" sources. Surely you know that.

 

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh, the IRONY coming from someone whose own credibility has VANISHED entirely because of his support of the racist BLOTUS's Crimes Against Humanity.[/QUOTE]

Your hate for Trump has obviously made it difficult for you to accept the truth even when it ispresented to you from the kind of radical left wing sources you prefer.

Obama's "Baby Jails" were created to enrich DP corporate donors.

“Lobbyist can offer, in other words, an implicit preemptive payoff to powerful government officials. It happens not only on the Hill but in the boastfully anti-lobbyist, anti-revolving-door Obama White House. Scores of administration officials had by 2010 left the administration for K Street jobs without anyone so much as pointing out that they were defying a ***central tenet*** of the Obama political enterprise.” … “There's a payoff," Hess [Stephen Hess Brookings Institution] concluded using the word “payoff” with no apparent wryness.” Mark Leibovich, This Town, Penguin Books, 2013, pp. 163,164. (*** mine)”

The Obama administration was very corrupt. I bet you know that.

 

What you make up about me does not change the fact that taking a document and then picking the parts you like and the parts you don't like is really stupid. There is no other way to describe it.

 

Thank you for clearly establishing that it is NOT me that is CONFUSED!

 

Duly noted that you either do not know what you are actually posting or you are being deliberately disingenuous.

DT: "...your only sources are rightwing DISINFORMATION bloggers..."
ddyad: "No, Deri, The Atlantic Monthly is not a "rightwing" source. "

You erroneously conflated your own rightwing disinformation blogger sources with the Atlantic Monthly which is a de facto STRAWMAN on your part.

 

It sure looks tp me like you were the one who was confused.
You had me saying "He spouted your BLOTUS's hateful rhetoric in his manifesto and he agreed with the white supremacist killer in New Zealand." and then without quotes under your part, you said "You either use the manifesto as a source or you ignore it. If you are going to use it, he clearly says that his feelings predated Trump.[/QUOTE]" Not sure what you were trying to say, but I am pretty sure you didn't say it.

 

They require a SUBSCRIPTION which makes them BEHIND a PAYWALL!

FTR the use of clickbait headlines does not alter the FACT that you are UNABLE to substantiate your utterly BOGUS allegation about Obama's policies.

 

Explain, if you can, how FAMILIES being kept TOGETHER is a Crime Against Humanity while ABDUCTING innocent children AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES is not?

Needless to say you won't be able to do that either given your ONGOING FAILURE to substantiate your bovine excrement allegation about Obama's policies.

 

Yet another attempt at the same debunked asinine strawman fallacy!

Sad!

 

Your hate for Trump has obviously made it difficult for you to accept the truth even when it ispresented to you from the kind of radical left wing sources you prefer.

Obama's "Baby Jails" were created to enrich DP corporate donors.

“Lobbyist can offer, in other words, an implicit preemptive payoff to powerful government officials. It happens not only on the Hill but in the boastfully anti-lobbyist, anti-revolving-door Obama White House. Scores of administration officials had by 2010 left the administration for K Street jobs without anyone so much as pointing out that they were defying a ***central tenet*** of the Obama political enterprise.” … “There's a payoff," Hess [Stephen Hess Brookings Institution] concluded using the word “payoff” with no apparent wryness.” Mark Leibovich, This Town, Penguin Books, 2013, pp. 163,164. (*** mine)”

The Obama administration was very corrupt. I bet you know that.[/QUOTE]

DESPERATION duly noted by posting the same FALLACIOUS bovine excrement over and over again in the vain hope of evading being held responsible for FAILING to substantiate your BOGUS allegation.

 

Then I recommend that you Cease and Desist from doing exactly that in your own posts!

 

" Not sure what you were trying to say, but I am pretty sure you didn't say it.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for acknowledging that I am NOT the one who is confused.

 

Poor thing. The mean old man is picking on you.

Still confused. As usual.

 

LOL! I posted direct quotes from the Atlantic Monthly.

Alt left crazies are wagging the DP doggy down. The Atlantic is not the only thinking progressive source that has noticed.

"I’m struck at how many people have come up to me recently and said, “Trump’s going to get re-elected, isn’t he?” And in each case, when I drilled down to ask why, I bumped into the Democratic presidential debates in June. I think a lot of Americans were shocked by some of the things they heard there. I was.

I was shocked that so many candidates in the party whose nominee I was planning to support want to get rid of the private health insurance covering some 250 million Americans and have “Medicare for all” instead. ...

I was shocked that so many were ready to decriminalize illegal entry into our country. I think people should have to ring the doorbell before they enter my house or my country. ...

And I was shocked by how feeble was front-runner Joe Biden’s response to the attack from Kamala Harris — and to the more extreme ideas promoted by those to his left."
THE NEW YORK TIMES, ‘Trump’s Going to Get Re-elected, Isn’t He?’, Voters have reason to worry., By Thomas L. Friedman, Opinion Columnist, July 16, 2019.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/16/opinion/trump-2020.html?module=inline

Brace yourself Deri.

 

And you aren't intentionally trolling? Especially about the El Paso shooter being left wing?

 

Every time I click the link I see the entire article.
The Nation must be Red Lining you. I will complain to the publisher for you.

https://www.thenation.com/article/the-department-of-homeland-securitys-baby-jails/

 

All white people have now been reported.

 

Strange how when he finally gets to what he considers important you cut off the quote.

 

You should read the shooters Manifesto. Almost all of it reflects current LW rage.
He is an environmentalist radical, who denounces America for its treatment of Native Americans and for its corporatism, and favors the DP plan to subsidize Central America.

Of course, in 1930 he would have been a sucker for the NSDAP.

“The American lifestyle affords our citizens an incredible quality of life. However, our lifestyle is destroying the environment of our country. The decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations. Corporations are heading the destruction of our environment by shamelessly overharvesting resources. This has been a problem for decades. For example, this phenomenon is brilliantly portrayed in the decades old classic “The Lorax”. Water sheds around the country, especially in agricultural areas, are being depleted. Fresh water is being polluted from farming and oil drilling operations.”
El Paso Killer’s Manifesto, Economic Reasons, 8/4/19.
https://media.8ch.net/file_store/7e...cedfb854dbdd7c3559b1c5afa0e15d63402d39934.pdf

Martin Heidegger would have loved this idiot.

 

I have. And it doesn't. Concern for the environment isn't strictly a left wing opinion. How to care for it falls into left vs right wing categories. The El Paso shooter's solution is to get rid of a significant number of people. That isn't supported generally on the left or right politically.

The reason for his assault is to combat the Hispanic "invasion" of the US and protect the white "culture" whatever he thinks that is.

 

Hence, this fake thread blaming everything on "white supremacy" and the left screaming racist every chance they get. The left started the KKK and has more deaths for genocide on their hands than anyone, yet, here they are, expressing outrage.

 

I think it depends on what you mean by white supremacy.
Most people, of all colors, are white supremacists, if it means, given the choice between living in a randomly-chosen white-majority country, and a randomly-chosen Black-majority country, and a randomly-chosen Hispanic-majroity country, they would, without hesitation, choose the white-ruled one. I'll bet every single person posting on this forum is a 'white supremacist' by that definition.

Of course, simple civility and politeness often keeps us from making comments that express this reality, especially when in mixed company, or which are congruent to it.

 

Clickbait! I gave you the url - again to see if you could finally read the article. I already gave you a significant quote proving my my point.

"But the administration keeps pushing the rationale that treating migrants humanely would send the wrong message to Central American families—lest they get their hopes up that the government would honor their human right to sanctuary.

This strategy fits well with the bottom line of the Obama administration’s partners in the detention business, Geo Group and CCA (neither company provided public comment when queried). With a designated capacity of 34,000 detainees, the companies have an economic interest in absorbing masses of immigrants, whether apprehended en masse at the border, plucked off the street, or simply caught up in the monstrously backlogged asylum courts."

THE NATION, The Department of Homeland Security’s ‘Baby Jails’
In the wake of last summer’s migrant crisis, DHS is still keeping families in detention centers. What could go wrong?,By Michelle ChenTwitter OCTOBER 23, 2015.
https://www.thenation.com/article/the-department-of-homeland-securitys-baby-jails/

Is anyone else having trouble reading this article on The Nation's site?