We have a responsibility on this Forum to do our part, however small, to stop White Supremacists

No, he did not. You meed to actually read the thing.

The El Paso and Dayton shooters agree with Trump's opponents on almost every issue from environmentalism to gun control.


“The inconvenient truth is that our leaders, both Democrat AND Republican, have been failing us for decades. They are either complacent or involved in one of the biggest betrayals of the American public in our history. The takeover of the United States government by unchecked corporations. I could write a ten page essay on all the damage these corporations have caused, but here is what is important. I could write a ten page essay on all the damage these corporations have caused, but here is what is important.”
El Paso Killer’s Manifesto, Political Reasons , 8/4/19.
https://media.8ch.net/file_store/7e...cedfb854dbdd7c3559b1c5afa0e15d63402d39934.pdf

 

Oops! You were misquoted. So, never mind.

 

That quote did not come from me. Apparently the software on this forum screwed up.

 

"And has never clearly distanced himself form White Supremacists."

Oh just stop with the hateful propaganda.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AdrianNormanDC/status/1058801071223533568?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1058801071223533568&ref_url=https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/watch-media-montage-of-trump-disavowing-duke-kkk-white-supremacists/

 

The hateful lies that you help to spread are divisive.

 

Exactly! He has not! He reads a teleprompter speech that somebody else wrote for him. He says "the nation" must oppose white supremacists... but no real condemnation. No "Don't associate me with your crazy crap!" or "White Supremacists are immoral people, period!" Not it's always "antifa" or Democrats or ... somebody else has "part of the blame". He can believe whatever he wants about antifa. But if you're distancing yourself from white supremacists unequivocally, you at least wait until the following speech to attack their most despised enemies. If he doesn't, and just reads a tired speech from a teleprompter that he repeats every single time there is a mass shooting, white supremacists will understand that all this is "wink wink... nod nod"

 

Why did you edit out the video which proves that you are posting a hateful lie?

I finally found it on YouTube. Is this better?

 

Figured that out and posted a correction.

 

The Post reports, "None of the eight victims of the El Paso mass shooting still being treated at University Medical Center agreed to meet with President Trump when he visited on Wednesday, the hospital’s spokesman said.

"Two victims who had been discharged from UMC and their families returned to the hospital to meet with Trump, Mielke said."

A girl who was shot in the leg and released from the hospital said her dad remains in critical condition and said her family refused to speak with Trump.

“The whole family said if he wants to go into the room, no. We don’t want him in the patient’s room. And we respect all of our family's opinion,” said Leticia Mariscal.

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While visiting a hospital in El Paso, Texas on Wednesday after a mass shooting that left 22 people dead, Trump found time to boast about the crowd size at a campaign rally he held in the city several months ago.

A video shows him saying, “I was here three months ago and we made a speech.”

“That was some crowd,” Trump bragged. “And we had twice the number outside.”

“And then you had this crazy Beto,” he continued. “Beto had like 400 people in the parking lot. They said his crowd was wonderful. But we had some—”

Trump then interrupted himself to admire a hospital worker’s Trump-themed socks.

“Oh wow! Look at that,” he exclaimed. “Don’t tell it to the press because they won’t even believe it.”

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-brag-rally-crowd-size-el-paso-hospital-visit

The man is a disgrace, but his fans love him. Perhaps, it is kinship. Trump is one their own kind.

 

Trump always wants it both ways, meaning he has no core beliefs. He believes whatever is politically expedient at the time. On national television, in front of students from Parkland, Fla., Trump told them and the nation he wanted background checks. That was a year and a half ago. Nothing was done.

On Monday, Trump tweeted that he wanted background checks. A couple hours later, he spoke to the nation and said absolutely nothing about background checks.

Trump, speaking to reporters Wednesday before visiting Dayton, Ohio, and El Paso, where weekend shootings left 31 dead, said there “was great appetite for background checks” amid an outcry over government inaction in the face of repeated mass shootings.

Following the slaughter of innocent civilians, two mass murders committed by white supremacists influenced by the President's hate-filled rhetoric, Trump let it be known that he has repeatedly told lawmakers and aides in private conversations that he is open to endorsing extensive background checks in the wake of the mass shootings. In a way his ham-handed approach is almost comical. He lacks both imagination and discreetness.

Trump's comments prompted a warning from the National Rifle Association, and there were concerns among White House aides. They need not worry. Trump cannot be trusted. He will say whatever is politically advantageous at the moment, and he should never be taken seriously.

The NRA opposes the legislation sponsored by Sens. Patrick J. Toomey (R-Pa.) and Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.). NRA chief executive Wayne LaPierre spoke with Trump on Tuesday after Trump expressed support for a background check bill and told him it would not be popular among Trump’s supporters.

Trump's sycophant in the Senate, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), said he would not bring any gun-control legislation to the floor without widespread Republican support.

Trump knows that will not happen. So, all his talk and tweets about background checks is no more than phony rhetoric designed to win votes and counter his inflammatory statements that encouraged the mass murders in the first place.

Barring another mass shooting, which is entirely possible because Trump defends his rhetoric, this time next week there will be no further talks about background checks. That is what happened after Columbine, Sandy Hook, San Bernardino, Parkland, and Las Vegas, and that is what will happen now.

This source helped with this post. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...f82060-b92d-11e9-a091-6a96e67d9cce_story.html

 

Said the democrat talking points.

 

We have background checks. They talk about the gun show loophole. There is no gun show loop hole. The same laws apply to gun shows as to any other gun transaction.

They talk about universal background checks. The problem is that it will be a law which is impossible to enforce because that would ultimately mean that there has to be a record of who owns every gun in the US. Otherwise all a person has to do is deny they ever owned that particular gun. To insure that every gun is registered, they would have to do no noticed inspections of every possible hiding place for a gun in the US which is impossible in addition to being unconstitutional.

Personally, even though the red flag law will have some problems, I believe it is the beginning of a good idea. Certainly worth discussing rationally.

 

You either use the manifesto as a source or you ignore it. If you are going to use it, he clearly says that his feelings predated Trump.[/QUOTE]

More nonsensical rubbish!

Your racist BLOTUS was a racist long before he began infesting the Oval office so does that mean that he wasn't a racist until he ran for office?

The El Paso killer was PROTECTING your racist BLOTUS but he did a lousy job because he PARROTED your BLOTUS in his manifesto.

Furthermore it is UNDENIABLE that your racist BLOTUS stoked the HATRED that caused the El Paso killer to MURDER those innocent people. Their blood is on the hands of your racist BLOTUS and nothing is going to alter that FACT.

 

Ironic PROJECTION duly noted FTR!

 

Inane STRAWMAN deflection duly noted FTR and IGNORED for obvious reasons.

 

Which part of this needs to be EXPLAINED?

Disinformation blocked by a PAYWALL is WORTHLESS!

 

Your ONGOING FAILURE to prove that Obama implemented a policy of ABDUCTING CHILDREN from their families is only harming YOUR credibility.

 

Yet another miserable FAILURE to PROVE that Obama issued any policy directive stipulated that immigrant families must be abused and have their children abducted.

Your credibility is evaporating with every post that FAILS to provide any shred of proof of your BOVINE EXCREMENT allegations.

But that is NOT my problem.

 

I am referring to your bovine excrement ALLEGATIONS about Obama that you have consistently FAILED to substantiate.

Posting rightwing blogger DISINFORMATION does NOT substantiate those BOGUS allegations of yours because it is coming entirely from your nether regions. At no point did Obama ever implement any policy remotely resembling your racist BLOTUS's Crimes Against Humanity child ABDUCTION policy.

 

The El Paso killer and the NZ killer were both nihilist left wing twits.
Does this sound like Trump?

“Consumer culture is creating thousands of tons of unnecessary plastic waste and electronic waste, and recycling to help slow this down is almost non-existent. Urban sprawl creates inefficient cities which unnecessarily destroys millions of acres of land. We even use god knows how many trees worth of paper towels just wipe water off our hands. Everything I have seen and heard in my short life has led me to believe that the average American isn’t willing to change their lifestyle, even if the changes only cause a slight inconvenience. The government is unwilling to tackle these issues beyond empty promises since they are owned by corporations. Corporations that also like immigration because more people means a bigger market for their products. I just want to say that I love the people of this country, but *******n most of y’all are just too stubborn to change your lifestyle. So the next logical step is to decrease the number of people in America using resources. If we can get rid of enough people, then our way of life can become more sustainable.”

El Paso Killer’s Manifesto, Economic Reasons, 8/4/19.
https://media.8ch.net/file_store/7e...cedfb854dbdd7c3559b1c5afa0e15d63402d39934.pdf

Facts and the record still matter.

When the remnant of the progressive left starts telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth it will regain some of its lost credibility and be in a position to effectively criticize its opposition. That will take some time - start now.[/QUOTE]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh, the IRONY coming from someone whose own credibility has VANISHED entirely because of his support of the racist BLOTUS's Crimes Against Humanity.

 

You are so confused that it defies all logic.
Using a document selectively based on what part of a document you agree with is really stupid. .

 

IRONIC coming from someone who SELECTIVELY MISREPRESENTS data and then is confused when the results demonstrate that he is wrong!

 

You quoted someone else as being me and then you quoted me as being yourself.

 

What "STRAWMAN"?

 

There is no paywall. Click on the link - the entire article is there.

https://www.thenation.com/article/the-department-of-homeland-securitys-baby-jails/

You might want to select all and copy/paste to a text page to avoid the pop ups.