The Biggest Take Away from the Transcript Release - A Real Smoking Gun

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  1. TurnerAshby

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    Biden was without a doubt guilty of conflict of interest....
     
  2. TurnerAshby

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    By letting Biden off the hook a precedent was set though
     
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    So you agree Trump should investigate what Biden might have done.
     
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    could damage the president immensely, we will see why he did not turn over the report to Congress like he was supposed too and why he lied to congress about the funds being held up
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden never used the Presidency to get a foreign country to go after a political opponent
     
  6. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    already been investigated, I couldn't care less, if he thought there was a crime, he should have gone through proper channels

    this is about Trump, we will just have to wait for the Whistle blower report to come out

    as Trump said he released the transcript, be hard to try to hide the report from the public now as the call has been declassified
     
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    Really.

    Who investigated it?
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden was never the president but he did use the presidents' name to threaten the Ukranian president if a prosecutor that was investigating his son was not fired.
    Now if that was Donald Trumps son, how would you be reacting?
    Never mind.
     
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    Trump is, "duty bound," to deter corruption involving interaction with a foreign government. It is part of his job !

    Especially involving those governments that the US has a treaty with, like the Ukraine.

    https://www.congress.gov/106/cdoc/t..._8lNPTP4IoxGTUvkda7wlm5z7-N7EfyVAx1V2oW7efOSI


    At this date, I have a feeling that the server is already in US hands.... At this point Hillary probably can't send a team to the Ukraine to clean up...

    Kind of ironic that the treaty was signed by William Jefferson Clinton... So very Ironic.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no, Trump using foreign governments to try and go after his political opponents is wrong and most know that

    he could have asked his doj to investigate.. but he choose to have his personal lawyer do it

    this was a political maneuver by Trump as he thinks if Biden wins the Primary he will lose, plain and simple, anyone can see that
     
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    We already know that Manafort was on the payroll of the pro -Russian Scum Turd Yanukovych making multi-millions. Yanukovych fled to Russia in 2014 after a couple few young demonstrators set up shop in Kiyiv the capital of Ukraine. Manafort was actually being paid by Putin.
    Manafort was Truml's campaign manager for a while then he was convicted of crimess.
     
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    Sadly we do not have a treaty with Ukraine such as a NATO treaty. If we did Russia would not have invaded Ukraine.

    What we have as a result of Ukraine giving up their left over Soviet nuclear warheads is thatvwe promised to protect the soverenty of Ukraine. Thatvreally worked well didn't it.
     
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  13. TurnerAshby

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    Semantics that won't fly with average people
     
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    How so? He won't be impeached from this and I'm guessing you already thought Trump was going to lose 2020 so is he gonna super lose now?

    Bidens is damaged

    The DNC who jumped on impeachment before even seeing the report could be damaged if the whistle blower turns out to be a clear political operative
     
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    Yep and Manafort was employing Tony Podesta to do his outsourced work
     
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    Yes.

    Mueller knew that in 2014 when he decided not to prosecute him.
     
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    So if a person commits a crime all they gotta do is say they're running for president and nobody can look into it anymore... Somebody shouldve told Aventti
     
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    nope, the fbi or the doj could choose to investigate anyone

    what can not happen is a candidate use their position of power to collude with a foreign government to attack their political opponent and then try to obstruct justice after the fact
     
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    If that is true it does not make Manafort's criminal act any less important.

    Are you trying to make this partisan ? I am not.
     
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    More like there was not enough evidence available to prosecute.
     
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    What foreign governments were involved in investigating Trump as a sitting President again?
     
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    Or a candidate turned president, right?
     
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    I'm still waiting for Schiff to produce the evidence of Trump's collusion with Russia that he said has been in his possession for nearly the past 3 years.
     
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    most of the public will not buy that Trump is off the hook for his bad deeds cause others may of done bad deeds
     

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