The Biggest Take Away from the Transcript Release - A Real Smoking Gun

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  1. GChairman

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    My biggest takeaway from this is

    how bitter and pathetic the Democrats have become, just when you think they could sink any lower
    this comes out
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong.

    It was the FBI taking the word of Crowdstrike that it was the Russians who passed information on to Wikileaks. Which turned out to be a total lie.

    Now we have a CIA officer planted in the White House who tried to impede what the White House was looking into with respect to the Ukraine.

    Adam Schiff sat on the letter since August and evidently had no idea about the real significance of the part regarding the server. Either he simply didn't know about that part or he didn't understand the significance of it.
     
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    "How the Russia Inquiry Began: A Campaign Aide, Drinks and Talk of Political Dirt"

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/...-investigation-began-george-papadopoulos.html

    "WASHINGTON — During a night of heavy drinking at an upscale London bar in May 2016, George Papadopoulos, a young foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, made a startling revelation to Australia’s top diplomat in Britain: Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton."
     
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    THAT is a Putin inspired meme designed to exonerate Russia in the 2016 e-mail hack.

    Putin smiles
     
  5. Lesh

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    I repeat
     
  6. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    No, that is still false.

    Fusion GPS is not a foreign firm. The foreign aspect is Christopher Steele and his Russian assets. The Washington Free Beacon dropped it's association with Fusion GPS in April 2016 and Christopher Steele wasn't hired until June 2016.
     
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    do you have a list of who Fusion GPS hired and when and when Steele was asked to work for them and by who?

    the point is, neither republicans or Democrats did anything wrong, though not sure why Senator Marco Rubio was the one giving orders and not The Washington Free Beacon
     
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    and if you intend to close your eyes to bad things, you won’t see them?
     
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    Smoking is bad... trying to control other people who do things you don't like is the worst thing ever..
     
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    A list of who Fusion GPS hired?

    I don't know what you are talking about. I only mentioned that they hired Steele in June 2016. Is that what you mean?
     
  11. FreshAir

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    it can be, the longest person to live was a smoker, a title non-smokers have not taken yet - this is why I do not try to control people, I am pro-choice.... if one wants to smoke, have at it - i would recommend to them not to smoke or drink to access though, moderation is best
     
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    the point is, republicans and dems had no control over who was hired or fired.... and we do not know if he was interviewed for hire under dems or repubs paying the bill, doesn't matter anyways

    what matter is how much of the dirt was true that they dug up about Trump?

    Usually politicians stay out of it, let others do their dirty work, not sure way Marco was involved
     
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    your the one talking about when people were hired, I just asked if you had a list, if you don't, that is fine too
     
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    Since we have an agreement with Ukraine to cooperate in investigating crimes there is no 'smoking gun' since Trump is only following the law. Biden bragged about what he did. It worked. Shokin got fired and the investigation into the company Biden's son was involved with was shelved.
     
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    yeah, public is not buying that Trump excuse
     
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    Translation: Facts be damned.
     
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    those are not facts, the facts are Trump wanted dirt on Biden, his political opponent and was holding up funds to get it... most Americans see how wrong that is - and the Trump admin knew it was wrong, that is why they covered it up by putting these transcripts in a secret sever to hide them away

    time will tell, but I think Trump will be impeached by the house, not just over this, but a whole list of things

    btw, good one on the signature, that was funny and so true
     
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    You mean investigating what Biden already bragged about? Secret server? Must be the new name for a secure server. Do you think it was in Trumps bathroom at home like Hillary's was?
     
  19. FreshAir

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    Trump using his power to get a foreign government to go after a political rival is wrong, most know that

    there is a normal secure location transcripts go, Trump tried to hide them away in a secret server to keep people from accessing them, question is why, we saw this transcript, it should not of been hidden away in that server
     
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    You mean investigate a crime. Are you saying that investigating Presidential candidates is now a bad thing? Didn't appear to be when it was Trump being investigated. Another double standard by the left.
     
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  21. FreshAir

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    using a foreign government to investigate a political opponent in the upcoming election

    the FBI could investigate Biden if they thought he was guilty of a crime, the President can not ask a foreign government to help him investigate his political opponent in an upcoming election - while holding up defense funding for their defense from a hostile country
     
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    An agreement of cooperation between two countries to investigate crimes committed passed when Biden was in Congress under Bill Clinton. Biden bragged about what he did. Are you saying crimes should now not be investigated or that Trump should not have been investigated while a candidate. I smell hypocrisy here.
     
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    nice try, there was no agreement that Trump could violate the law and ask a foreign government to investigate his political opponent in an upcoming election
     
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    The House Dems have decided to Schiff into high gear. LOL!!!
     
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    You mean investigate a crime committed by a US official that Biden even bragged about.
     

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