The Biggest Take Away from the Transcript Release - A Real Smoking Gun

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no crime happened there, one could argue Biden had a conflict of interest and should have let someone else handle it

    Trump also has many conflicts of interest as does Barr....

    but Biden did use a foreign government to go after a political opponent like Trump did
     
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    You mean like the Obama administration did to Trump. Of course that was all legit. LOL
     
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    Obama did nothing to Trump, Trump had a drunk campaign aide tell a foreign government about Russia... they notified America about it, it was passed on to the FBI (the republican in charge of the FBI handled it)

    big difference between asking a foreign government to help you get dirt on a political opponent while holding up funds
     
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    LOL, it appears you have no clue what has been discovered.
     
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    I was thinking the same about you... or you are just trying to spin nothing into something.... come on, tell us what you think you know
     
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    Remember Misfud the alleged Russian contact according to the Mueller report? Turns out he works for Western intelligence and has even trained FBI.
     
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    At this point our own justice department has been hamstrung by the whiner party. Any attempt to look in to Biden or even Obama for corruption will be seen as the DOJ doing Trumps bidding. Therefore, it is open free for all season on criminality for democrats. The have created a scenario where they are untouchable. I would love to see an investigation on how Nancy Pelosi became a multi millionaire while tirelessly working hard for the American people.
    For now on I want Trump to refer to AOC as the speaker of the house, just to get skeletor's blood boiling. In fact Trump should just refuse to ever meet with Whiny Nancy ever again.
     
  8. FreshAir

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    and look what Giuliani tweeted last night, corroborating another potion of the whistle-blowers complaint - lol - Trump hires the best people :)

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    yes, he was a republican involved in all this... so?
     
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    It's just desperate right-wing turd polishing. Expect more and more of such hysterical hyperbole as their obese orange hope sinks under the weight of his own corruption and thuggery.
     
  11. FreshAir

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    I am so glad Comey was a republican, hard to believe they even try to bring all this up considering Comey helped Trump win and kept the Russia investigation from the public while blabbing about the Clinton investigation

    remember, speak or conceal are the only two options, for Trump he choose to conceal
     
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    So what your saying is, if a campaign gets foreign assistance via a second or third party, you think it's OK and legal. Is that your position?
     
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    Admiral Rogers is a real hero. No joke! When the full story is written one day, this is Superman.
     
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    I provided you a link in post #135 of when Christopher Steele was hired by Fusion GPS.
     
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    hired is not the same as date he applied... when the decision to hire was made

    but regardless, neither republicans or democrats has any say in who they hired - they paid for a service from the company, the company was not run by them

    the company reached out to the dem candidates and resold what repubs already paid for... pretty slick
     
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    it is legal, both republicans and democrats do it - what is not legal is to ask a foreign government to dig up dirt on your political opponent, especially while withholding millions in defense aid they need badly

    want to make it illegal to for supporters of a candidate to hire foreign companies to dig up dirt on someone, then make a law, as of now, it's legal and both parties supporters do it

    like I said, not sure how Marco got involved, mostly this is third party supporter stuff - not the candidates themselves

    had someone Trump did not know, did not ask to do, but supported him did these things on their own, perfectly legal......
     
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    "hired is not the same as date he applied... "

    That's ridiculous. You must really be reaching if that's your claim.
     
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    I know it's too much to ask, but could you actually read the transcripts, instead of what Rachel Maddow is telling you is in the transcripts? Trump didn't ask for them to dig up dirt on a political opponent in exchange for defense aide. That was the whistleblower charge that was blown out of the water with the release of the transcripts, but it's still being reported.

    But to the issue at hand, you ARE saying that's legal for a candidate get foreign assistance via a second or third party. That's what I wanted to know.
     
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    if you have a different opinion just post it, I do not watch msnbc or fox, sorry

    what do you think is on the server, lol, let's release the RNC server contents form 2016 while we are at it

    it was clear what Trump was doing, holding back the funds and asking for a favor

    a candidate has no control over what a 3rd party supporter does - I think we should get rid of pacs and restrict corporate spending, so they can't afford to do these things - if corps are people too, restrict them to the same $$$ as people
     
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    You asked for my opinion, in a reply quote that contained my opinion.
     
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    "I know it's too much to ask, but could you actually read the transcripts, instead of what Rachel Maddow is telling you is in the transcripts?"

    I was referring to this, just making up stuff about me to attack the messenger
     
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    I did offer an actual opinion, it just wasn't in the sentence you picked out, "Trump didn't ask for them to dig up dirt on a political opponent in exchange for defense aide. That was the whistleblower charge that was blown out of the water with the release of the transcripts, but it's still being reported."
     
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    yes, I replied to that too, but as you can see, were not discussing that because of the first half of your post
     
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