Do you have irreconcilable political differences with your family members?

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  1. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    Maybe High Functioning Autism makes me addiction-prone.

    I am addicted to reading forums/Twitter.
     
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    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    Given that my parents support me with my Disability, I am absolutely morally indebted to them.

    Thank G-d and my parents.

    Most Americans abandon their disabled adult family members.
     
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    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    I have almost no friends. I strongly disagree with Liberals and Conservatives on different issues.
     
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    not being yourself, not speaking about your feelings IS NOT etiquette, it's submission to peer pressure amidst lack of self confidence...
     
  5. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    If avoiding controversial subjects prevents big family fights, it’s sensible and good manners.
     
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    for prudes maybe... not so for confident individuals

    the trait you speak of is nothing more than suppression/control... it breeds socialist ideals which lead to totalitarianism (aka communism)...
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why cause fights in your family? They are people whom you love, I suppose, and everyone is aware of each other’s attitudes.
    Pointless to try and change entrenched attitudes and cause family schisms as a result.
    Do you disagree?
     
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    families, of all people, know each other and their values... if you can not or will not express yourself to your own kindred, who can you? being true to oneself is of the utmost importance, from there you can make concessions to 'coddle' the weak ones among you...
     
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    On my moms side we can agree to disagree, although we're all pretty conservative, including my one aunt that dislikes Trump only a little less than she dislikes progressives (I think entirely because of his womanizing). Political discussion usually leads into religious discussion, and then it becomes more like a Bible study/testimonial session. Thank God they're not anti-drinking (anymore).

    On my dads side, arguments get much more heated much faster, and no one wants to ruin my 90+yo ultra-democrat grandmoms visit, so we avoid politics until she leaves for the night. But by then half of us are pretty well liquored, and it has got a bit scary on occasion. We're all traceable to Ireland ;)
     
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    Your kindred already know how you feel. Why harp on subjects which always cause dissension and stress? You aren’t going to change anyone’s mind- we all know this from the toings and froings on this forum.
     
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    If that was all the additions you have dealt with, feel blessed. For real, sincerely.
     
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    If you have any, you are blessed. A genuine friend is a jewel and worth a score of "friends" i can count mine with one hand. Wish we were neighbors.
     
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    evidently, most of 'you' have never spent any quality time in new york, and it's a blue city ;)
     
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    no, I’ve never been to New York.I grew up in a small country town in Aust. I’ve lived in the rural areas and in big cities.
    Until I was 21, I voted Conservative. Life experience has coloured my perspective and I now vote Progressive.
     
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    what you need to recognize is that 'left' & 'right' have different meanings in different cultures around the world... some are exactly opposite of what we (in the usa) refer to... here in the usa 'left' means the seating arrangements in congressional hall. think of it as a coliseum and from the stage looking towards the audience, draw a line exactly down the center, everyone seated to the left of center is a democrat, those that sit to the right of center are republican...

    the term democrat does not equate to democracy, it is merely nomenclature
     
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    Republican is conservative, right.
    Democrat is progressive, left. Right?
     
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    generally but the terms "conservative" and "progressive/left" or "liberal" have changed meanings significantly over just the last couple of decades.
     
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    Liberal is the main conservative party here and our main progressive party is the Labour Party.
     
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    I have no truck with that idea, at all. It's extremely toxic, IMO.

    99% of us vote as we do because we regard it as the 'good' thing to do. What you're suggesting is that ordinary, decent people are literally choosing to vote for evil. That is cartoonishly awful, sorry. It's dehumanising half the population, merely to avoid the work of stepping into their shoes.
     
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    EXACTLY my point.
     
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    You need to work on that. Dial down the 'me' stuff and make yourself a vessel of support and listening.
     
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    Yes and no. If you have to lie to prevent the zealots among you from exploding, it's not good. But it is good to keep that triggering material light and easily escaped.
     
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    I am grateful to my parents for supporting me and treating me as an equal. Most Americans abandon disabled adult relatives. I am not really in a position to demand anything more.
     
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    Thank G-d, my parents, and my therapist, I am not addicted to anything other then reading online arguments and sometimes participating in them.

    I did drink a few times and I liked it. I did smoke once in a few months during 1994 -- 2016. But for an Aspie that is a road to alcoholism and nicotine addiction.
     
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    My views on gender issues -- that men suffer very much discrimination is unpopular in both parties. Very few men are aware or care about men's issues -- Presumption of Guilt, male bashing, Criminal Sentencing gap. The vast majority of women are aware of women's issues and have strong in-group loyalty.

    I am grateful to my mother for supporting me. She knows my position on the issues. But of course I do not talk about these issues in front of my parents. Many Americans have disowned their sons who are interested in these issues.
     

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