WATCH LIVE: Two Dead, One Wounded After Shooting Reported at White Settlement Church

Ex-felons can lawfully buy and possess guns in Texas.

 

This shows how quickly lethal violence can play out, but many liberals seem to believe we should conduct an interview to determine capability and intent of an intruder during a home invasion.

 

Not this guy. His felony offenses were too recent and he was homeless.

 

Federal law says they can't.
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/can-someone-possess-gun-after-criminal-conviction.html

 

Presumably seven. A report that I read said that seven parishioners drew their weapons.

I hope you'll take my word for it. It would probably take me three days to find that report.

 

And the same system the GCA's want to weaponised against law abiding gun owners.

 

Might? I assure you I do! You have some internal question as to whether you do? Can you even come up with some moral value I would not agree with with a devout Christian or Jew? And there are people who have a deep belief in their god and they STILL do immoral things. It doesn't take a fear of a supernatural being or even a law to make me moral and civil citizen.

 

The killer wasn't really interested in killing a lot of people. He only wanted to shoot a couple of random ones at the most or else he would have used different weapons and did something to cause a distraction before opening fire or shot them at a different time. In a way he was on a suicide mission because he had no plans to escape and he knew that there were gunslingers in attendance. He was ready to die after accomplishing his objective, which he did.

 

Are you saying we should trust future shooters because they only want to shoot a couple of people and commit suicide by responder?

 

Totally false, he had a fully loaded ten round shotgun and more shells in his possession.

 

How can you prevent such people from doing what they want to do? They control the time and place and even their targets. If they don't have a high capacity weapon they don't intend to shoot more than a couple of people.

 

The only trust a active shooter should be allowed is a second or two before he is killed by a armed law abiding person.

 

Then why did he possess a ten round shotgun and had more rounds in his possession?

 

A high capacity pistol would have been more effective if he had wanted to shoot a lot of people. A typical shotgun is too hard to handle in a stressful situation without a lot of practice. As you can see, he didn't do too much damage.

 

The first victim almost got his shot off before anybody else was killed.

This church seemed to have an older congregation than most churches. A younger more fit security staff may have dropped the BG first. There is also a lot to be said about having an older more even tempered security staff. You have to run with what you have.

 

As you can see, it is cumbersome to extract a shotgun from under a long coat, aim and shoot it. Something like a Glock would have been easier to handle. The shooter was also in the wrong physical location for an effective killing spree.

 

Yes, More Guns = Less Crime and Fewer Violent Felons

Worth remembering.

 

Huh. The hero of the story, Jack Wilson, is running for Country Commissioner of Hood County. I think he just won the election.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ed-texas-church-shooter-is-running-for-office

Sorry if someone else already mentioned this. Looks like I missed the last 10 or so pages of the thread and haven't caught up!

 

You have no clue as to what happened, the shooter was identified as a threat by the security team, the security team drew down upon him to protect the parishioners and he shot to of two of them, a third team member did a head shot and took out the active shooter.

The shooter was mentally ill, a criminal who should not have been on the streets and was planning to take out as many people as he could, he was stopped by a team of law abiding people who prevented the carnage he wished to bring down upon those innocent people in that church.

That's the bottom line and is based on facts which you cannot spin in any other way.

 

Criminals are opportunistic. A Glock may not have been available. He couldn't just walk into a gun store and buy a gun, magazines, and ammo. I'm curious where he got the gun. I suspect he stole it. We'll see soon, hopefully.

He obviously picked the wrong church to shoot up. They were well organized and ready for him. Except for individual tactical mistakes, the security team was a well oiled machine and a model for other churches and business to follow.

 

So, you're saying that the gunslingers attacked the killer first and caused him to fear for his life, which is why he started firing at them?

 

You are funny. You try to compare these little countries to the US and think it's the same. Then you say that you can't compare poor countries to rich countries when your argument is shown to be crap. You can look how well Russia compares to the US. Russia has stricter gun laws and a worse murder rate overall. In the end, the only thing that makes any sense is that some cultures are more violent than others. Many countries are still guided, morally, by a tribal mentality. I don't know what the latin america countries are guided by but it's not good. Payoffs are normal, drug lords are accepted. The law is not respected. In countries that respect the law, and people respect each other, the murder rate is low. It's really as simple as that. Even poor people don't kill others when they respect human life.

Not all cultures deserve respect no matter how much some people want us to believe otherwise.

 

The video is linked in the first page of this thread. The BG began pulling out his shotgun. The first victim failed to draw and shoot in 3 seconds. The second victim was caught by surprise because the BG distracted him. The BG was shot before he could get off his next shot. Nobody threatened the BG before he revealed his gun.

 

I can aim and shoot a shotgun much faster than I can aim and shoot a handgun, Glock or otherwise.