Trump weighs restarting economy despite warnings from U.S. public health officials

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  1. AFM

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    You see what you want to see.

    Sure it does.
     
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    Some are medical experts. You know...the ones who are opposed to loosening social distancing precautions and other measures to delay the spreading of COVID19?
     
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    That's not to keep the economy going.

    Besides, deaths due to one cause do not justify allowing people to die from some other cause.
     
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    1) This isn't the flu, this is COVID19
    2) Why did you stop discussing the highway accidents?
     
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    Either cite a reputable medical source supporting opening our economy by Easter or please retract that.
     
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    They are today. And so is Trump.
     
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    It’s a contagious viral disease as is Corona.
     
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    Huh?
     
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    This is nonsense.

    Boris Johnson of UK asked for corporations to switch to producing parts and doing assembly of medical equipment. Lots of corporations volunteered.

    With their effort being coordinated, they are now producing way more ventilators, etc.

    NY says it needs 30,000 ventilaotrs. Trump told them to pound sand.

    NOBODY in the US is going to meet that demand by Easter. So, what does Trump THINK is going to happen???

    So what we get is people dying and states bidding up the cost of medical supplies - as if our meical supplies aren't already too expensive.

    Why did Trump sign the Defense Production Act, brag about it to governors in need, and then refuse to use it???
     
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    Some are predicting a flattening of the curve by Easter based on other nations experience. And the opening can be done intelligently keeping controls in place in hot spots like NY which has half of the Corona cases.
     
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    Simple statement to understand.
     
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    Correlation is we don’t shut down the economy to prevent highway fatalities and a certain level of death is deemed acceptable to keep commerce functioning. We could stop driving and save many thousands of lives but we choose not to in favor of making driving as safe as possible which we will do in this situation. Return to work and make it as safe as possible. The alternative is shutting down our economy for at least a year while we wait for a vaccine. Is that your preferred policy?
     
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    So is Tuberculosis and STDs...what point are you trying to make?
     
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    We can all obey the medical people and shut down the economy or we can obey the financial people and get everything going to save the economy. Either way, somebody will die. Either our weak will die from the spread of the Wu flu or crime and desperation will increase with the financial chaos coming if we don't restart our economy soon. My elderly are isolated and I still have a job. All I can suggest is to prepare for whatever is decided for us.

    For the long term, shutting down and destroying businesses will do more damage and kill more people. We should stick to the 2 week shut down and then revisit it every week.
     
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    I've wondered this, too.

    At the end, these people will hold huge debt and not even have their hourly wage job that they were barely getting by on before this disaster.
     
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    Right over your head apparently.
     
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    No medical expert would propose eliminating any precautions or preventative measures before Easter. Saying otherwise, quite frankly, is foolhardy.
     
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    And the elderly (I am 71) do not want to put our kids and grandkids into a depression. We will take precautions and take our chances.
     
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    Are you suggesting if we stopped driving the economy wouldn’t immediately shut down?
     
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    You are actually claiming that Trump has made a hard decision to open the economy by Easter ???
     
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    Highway accidents aren't a highly contagious respiratory virus. You're comparing apples to oranges. Actually, that's not fair, since those are both types of fruit. You're comparing apples to hydrochloric acid.
     
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    Once again because industry is cooperating without being forced to.
     
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    No, that's just nonsense. One way we have far fewer deaths than the other way.

    Plus, let's remember that there are other reasons for having a working healthcare system - one not totally overrun by COVID.

    We're still going to have heart attacks, appendicites, car wrecks, and all the rest of the maladies that were filling about 3/4 of our hospital capacity BEFORE this pandemic.

    What's going to happen when YOU need help from a hospital for ANY reason, and there aren't rooms, are fewer staff due to COVID exposure, supplies are depleted, etc?

    Plus as Lindsay Graham says, people aren't going to be wild about shopping, tourism, etc. in the midst of a pandemic.

    In order for the shutdown to work, people have to be committed to actually doing it.

    Yet, we have a president, some governors and congressmen who downplay it's importance.
     
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    1) The flu's mortality rate is significantly less than COVID19's.
    2) The medical field has knowledge on the flu, even so much as to have vaccines available. There is no vaccine for COVID19 nor has much research been done in comparison to the flu.

    Any more strawmen to grasp for or are you done?
     

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