More Jersey Democrats Caught Committing Voter Fraud with Mail-In-Ballots

But wait I thought this was the safest way to vote....Libs said voter fraud is all a myth. The bright side is... they're being caught.

Bill Barr on vote by mail: A comprehensive rule where all the ballots are essentially mail-in, and there's so many occasions for fraud there that cannot be policed. I think it would be very bad. But one of the things I mentioned was the possibility of counterfeiting.


More Jersey Democrats Caught Committing Voter Fraud with Mail-In-Ballots
PATERSON, NJ – Attorney General Gurbir S. Grewal today announced voting fraud charges against Paterson City Councilman Michael Jackson, Councilman-Elect Alex Mendez, and two other men in connection with the May 12, 2020 special election in the City of Paterson.

All four men are charged with criminal conduct involving mail-in ballots during the election. The investigation by the Attorney General’s Office of Public Integrity & Accountability (OPIA) began when the U.S. Postal Inspection Service alerted the Attorney General’s Office that hundreds of mail-in ballots were found in a mailbox in Paterson. Numerous additional ballots were found in a mailbox in nearby Haledon. Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, all voting in May 12 elections in New Jersey was done by mail-in ballots.

http://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2020/06/25/fraud-charges/

 

3 days since #Kentucky and #NewYork held primary elections – and some of the most crucial congressional contests have yet to be called. Why? Still counting #AbsenteeBallots ! What would happen in Nov?

https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1276506752951947264

 

If it's good enough for our president and his press secretary then it's good enough for all AMERICANS!!!

 

1 in 5 Ballots Rejected as Fraud Is Charged in N.J. Mail-In Election
In the City Council election, 16,747 vote-by-mail ballots were received, but only 13,557 votes were counted. More than 3,190 votes, 19% of the total ballots cast, were disqualified by the board of elections. Due to the pandemic, Paterson’s election was done through vote-by-mail. Community organizations, such as the city’s NAACP chapter, are calling for the entire election to be invalidated.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...is_charged_in_nj_mail-in_election_143551.html

 

There probably is over hundreds of elections held every year in America, everything from national elections to school board members, and it is always interesting how some one on the right will always find a couple of examples out of these hundreds and generalize it to portray corruption and fraud in all elections

Mail in voting has been already employed in five States including ruby red Utah without any major problems. We also have five months to iron out and prepare for any potential problems in using it in November. Nearly the entire White House votes by mail, and it seems hypocritical to deny Americans the same liberty they enjoy especially with a pandemic threatening turnout

The sole reason Barr, meaning Trump, is against it is because he sees turnout as working against him politically, plain and simple, the more difficult he makes it to vote, he sees as less people voting against him

 

How's this for a solution, VOTE in person at your assigned voting location OR don't vote. Out of State, out of country, in a hospital that's to dang gum bad as life's tough. Exception would only be out of country embassy staff and the military.

 

Curious why Trump supporting cons don't post links when election fraud is done by cons.

Hmmmmmm

 

Then we agree that voting fraud does exist. In that case what would be your solution to the problem?

 

I disagree. Only special cases, such as military overseas or other extreme cases should be able to. And those should be VERY carefully monitored.

 

see post 6

 

Obviously we take away the ability to vote by mail in the midst of a pandemic. It's the only sensible course.

 

Sounds good to me.

 

Much better to cheat like right wing states like Georgia and Kentucky do by closing down most polling stations in minority or known Democrat districts creating huge waiting lines at the remaining polls, to discourage voting.

 

I don't know. I do know that election fraud isn't that huge of an issue to be wasting billions of dollars on though.

But I tell ya what, if the GOP and Cons want ID's mandatory to vote, then the Govt needs to pay for every single ID that is needed to folks who do not have the ID needed to vote.

Sound fair? I'm game if you are.

 

I'm fine with that. No ID, no voting.

 

So... nothing to say about fraud.

Deflection as usual.

 

Standardize all states mail in ballots and have optical scanners to read and count the votes. Beats the **** of the antiquated voting machines we use today, we vote like a third world banana republic. We should have computerized the entire process decades ago.

 

Dems only win by cheating. Their policies are crap.

 

Making things harder to police doesn't mean that the fraud magically disappears. Of the ones that are caught, how many are NOT caught since democrats like to keep policing as minimal as possible?

That you are aware of

So when there were protests with thousands of people in close contact, that was their constitutional right. When it comes to elections, it must be by mail to protect people?

Sounds logical.

/sarcasm

Or, you know... they are interested in fairness.

 

Who cares if it takes awhile to count the votes?

As Long as TRUMP LOSES...

 

McConnell has more votes than all of the other Democrat candidates combined.

I think he's safe, even with Louisville and Lexington voting straight ticket.

 

Unfortunately it is. The solution is to have voting over 2-3 days BUT no tabulation or vote counting of any type during that time. No different than early voting process.

 

No issue with government paying for ID cards. Would you then be on board with a no ID no vote law.

 

Incorrect, of course. There is nothing inherently wrong with mail-in voting, and you know full well that not having it will lead to lower voter turnout and potential increased spread of Covid-19.

Even the story being discussed here is not really a case of voter fraud. It's a story of people allegedly not following the rules, but it's not a matter of fraudulent votes having been cast:

Jackson, 48, is charged with fraud in casting a mail-in vote, unauthorized possession of ballots, tampering with public records and falsifying or tampering with records.
He allegedly violated state election laws as a candidate by approaching one or more Paterson voters in the district where he was running and collecting their official mail-in ballots, according to the release.

New Jersey allows a "bearer" to take ballots from several people and deliver them to the county board of elections. A bearer can collect and deliver ballots for only three people and a candidate in the election is never permitted to be a bearer.

Jackson allegedly did not identify himself as a bearer on the mail-in ballots that he delivered to the Passaic County Board of Elections, and he allegedly had more than three ballots that were not his.
​

source: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/25/poli...ral-announces-voting-fraud-charges/index.html

 

I disagree that there is nothing inherently wrong with mail-in voting. And it starts with who gets the voting ballots as the government cannot even get the stimulus checks delivered correctly. Lower voter turnout is a ruse, early voting takes care of that issue. Didn't see much Covid-19 worries on display during all the marches and riots', did you?