Ammo store bans mask-wearing customers, calls Whitmer a 'b*tch'

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  1. yardmeat

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    Not just bacteria, no. It is also to slow or stop the spread of viruses that travel mostly through droplets. Are people seriously just now learning this?
     
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    No, I don't think that. My impression is that he doesn't thinking he is putting anyone in harm's way. If government wants people to wear masks they should ask, sell the concept and pester people who don't comply. As soon as government demands then we no longer have a free country with personal choice. That becomes replaced by authoritarianism. I wear a mask everywhere, not because I think it matters but just to keep other people from worrying. But hate the mandate. This guy hates the mandate also and puts teeth in it.
     
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    He's wrong. If you hate the mandate, but you agree that masks are effective, then you should be against what this business is doing, even if you are also against government mask mandates. Your current position is inconsistent.
     
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    That is an opinion and it is not held by everyone.

    I agree. I wouldn't do it but I am older and calmer than he is. I do understand his position but, like you, I consider it extreme.
     
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    I do not agree that masks are effective. I think distancing is effective.
     
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    Viruses don't care about opinions. You can have an opinion about masks, but they either work or they don't. Opinions don't matter. Facts are facts.

    Then you should be able to vocally object to his actions without thinking that requires authoritarianism, just as you would oppose other things that people have the right to do, but which you still oppose.
     
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    Or soon enough :) XI the CHINER let it fly all around the world for over 45+ days before he mentioned Human to Human transmission :shock:
     
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    If you didn't agree that masks are effective, then why wear a mask, as you say you do? Where on earth did you come up with the idea that masks and social distancing are mutually exclusive?
     
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    Because other people think it is effective and I have no interest in making strangers uncomfortable. I didn't say they are mutually exclusive. i said I believe one is effective and the other is not.
     
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    I'm against government mandates, personally. The entire handling of this disease has been botched from day 1, when President Trump learned how incredibly dangerous this thing is. Fauci made plenty of errors, too.

    That said, we have over 100 years of science telling us that masks work.

    I very much hope that nobody working for him gets sick. The lower we keep our personal viral load down, the less likely we are to get seriously sick. People who are coming in contact with many people over the course of the day, are much more subject to having an increased viral load.

    How can anyone look at what's going on world-wide and say, "meh, I don't understand the science so it's probably wrong," is beyond me.

    I'm developing a whole new set of opinions on the pro-life crowd. I don't think it's a genuine belief. Pro birth? Sure, but having respect for non embryo lives? Not so much.
     
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    Meanwhile there is empirical evidence that both are effective. I encourage you to look into it. Masks significantly reduce droplet dispersal . . . and those droplets carry the virus. As my dad would say, it ain't rocket surgery.
     
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    Why because they died of complication from underlying Diseases like clogged arteries, Hyper tension, Diabetes, stroke and chronic lung Diseases like COPD.. More people have recovered then have died, or are we allowed to use that stat?
     
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    There is also evidence to the contrary.
     
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    Not really, except for some really misleading **** that ignores all of the stuff I just mentioned. Droplets do, indeed, carry the virus. Masks, when both parties are wearing them, do, indeed, significantly reduce the spread of droplets. No "evidence" refutes this.
     
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    Are you still repeating this unsubstantiated mantra?

    Produce a single controlled study with decreased incidence of disease from respiratory virus as a primary endpoint.
     
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    Has nothing to do with that. Does the government have the authority to quarantine and/or direct health directives in combating a virus
    like Ebola - or in the case of any type of direct viral assault from another country?
     
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    No. Not really. If you are referring to the woman who believes having sex with demons causes some gynecological problems, she's bat-**** insane, so her opinion is irrelevant.

    No serious medical professional says masks don't work.
     
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    The Government can mandate all they like, but a huge amount Americans WILL ALWAYS push back.. Nothing less then military action will sway Insubordinate and resistance and we both know that would never come to pass ;) The strongest of our country and planet will survive disease, evolution proves that, and the weak will succumb to it history also proves that..

    Good luck I suppose is the real answer here ;)
     
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    You wear a mask, I wont.

    Wearing a mask can make you more susceptible, it protests others at the cost of yourself.
     
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    Government paid for the roads they make the rules. Drive on private property you dont have to wear a seat belt.

    This store owner should not be forced to do things in his store he doesnt want to.
     
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    Who is required to wear pants? Point us to a pants ordinance.
     
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    You lack agency and are incapable of doing anything without a ruler and bureaucrats to inform you, first?
     
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    Like provide fire escapes? Proper electrical wiring?

    Businesses are regulated. A lot of regulation exists to protect the public who might enter the store. Don’t want to be regulated? Don’t open a store.

    The mistake this guy made was politicizing the issue. If he’d just said the it is important to see people’s faces in a gun store, that might be reasonable.

    Why are trumpublicans politicizing face masks?
     
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    Having to wear a mask AS A GOVERNMENT MANDATE is harming the rule of law in the US.

    Any merchant can demand it, but the government cannot.

    For SOME INDIVIDUALS wearing a mask is harmful. For ALL INDIVIDUALS wearing a mask (dependent upon style and specifics) causes them to retain carbon dioxide in their blood. You might be happy to accept that side effect for your body, but I am not willing to accept that side effect for my body.
     
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    Present one prospective controlled study with incidence of disease as the primary enpoint, in support of your claim
     

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