The left will eventually take over America

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    You think women are incapable of doing so, obviously. Nice.
     
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    I’m still laughing, as is my wife. She’s laughing and shaking her head at such a juvenile comment.
     
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    Juvenile? To suggest that not having sex is the surest way to avoid a pregnancy?

    Just how many kids do you have? Is your name Duggar?
     
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    Just wait til the USA starts fining or arresting people like you and me for posting memes or posting alternate debate that do not conform with our soon to be socialist government just like what is happening in some European countries. Once we lose freedom of speech, we will never get it back.
     
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    Fear not, Grasshopper. Whatever powers they invest themselves with to control thought and speech, will still exist when leadership cycles back to Conservatives.

    Just think of the deep regret they'll have at that moment .. when they realise they acted purely on emotions, instead of stopping to consider the implications of what they wished for. It will be delicious :D
     
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    Given the US has more poverty than other developed countries, they must have a lot more irresponsible people? The irony of right wing comment on this is that they simulatenously want to be nationalists, but also have to ultimately have contempt for the American people...
     
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    Hahaha! Wrong. There is no real poverty in the US.
     
  8. Reiver

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    We've known poverty as a relative measure since the days of classical liberalism. And, if you fix the poverty line according to US official measure, the only developed country that comes close to the US poverty record is the UK.

    Not knowing stuff is no excuse for a Beavis and Butthead impression ;)
     
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    Democrats control teaching curriculum. They supposedly teach the history when a district hasn't merged it into garbage "social studies," to facilitate unthinkable revisions undermining the successes of our Founders. Leftists hate those successes and are focused solely on negatives. They can't find anything good anywhere and we don't need leadership appealing to that kind of negativity.
     
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    Please provide the full curriculum for public school history classes to support your claim US schools focus solely on negatives.
     
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    Self-restraint is a fantasy to a liberal, is that it? Something impossible to even think about, like, say, giving up smoking. Everybody knows nobody can ever quit smoking. Human nature. Can't be done. Impossible!

    What degree of self-control is needed for quitting tobacco, compared to even TAKING PRECAUTIONS which would cut overall rates of pregnancies right there. Or use of morning-after pills. A momentary pause in the action, saving thousands of dollars. Self-restraint...if only to unwrap the raincoat.

    But we're monsters for saying keep those knees together and moral standards high. From the people who are all emotion, all the time. Go figure.
     
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    DEMOCRATS runs our schools. Political correctness is so rampant that history focuses on slavery over legislation. It causes teachers to use video classrooms but then report a child if she spots a TOY GUN in the background. Crazies run our public schools. Charters are the only way. Public schools must be rethought in full.

    Liberals run on negatives. I catch many simply by asking them to list ten things they actually like about America. Failing that, read the overcapitalized hyperbolic hair-on-fire screeds from libs here, and compare to the dry, musty, often boring eminent truths we post compared to those lies. Oh my are we boring with all that truth. Puts libs into comas every time.

    Why are we supposed to care about slavery before 1865 but forget about 2020 violence in Minnesota?
    Teach me that, hey?
     
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    Hmmm, are you saying conservatives only have sex to procreate? Seems like you are with how you're crowing about conservatives having high moral standards. Because of course, conservatives don't have abortions, conservatives don't cheat on their spouse.
    Odd you comparing smoking and sex. Me thinks you might be doing it sex) wrong.
    And I must say...seems you are the one who is a bit emotional over this issue.
     
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    So you have no ACTUAL proof only the "negatives" are being taught in history classes. Got it.
    Why said we're supposed to forget about 202 violence in Minnesota?
     
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    Blame government-run public education. Critical thinking is no longer an important skill and love of government is the primary value instilled in schoolchildren.

    The right wing isn't much better. They claim to be anti-socialism, but they still embrace military socialism, nationalism, and protectionism, which is socialism for industry.
     
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    Moving slightly more left might be inevitable, but these things go in cycles. Plus liberals always, always go too far and completely lose the moderates they need for continued support. At the moment Covid-19 is the only thing keeping the ultra-left agenda afloat. There was already push back on many liberal ideas prior to the outbreak. So many things fell off the radar when the shutdowns began. Those things haven't disappeared. The majority of Americans didn't want to be socialist, and Sanders was removed from the primaries by a concerted effort to keep that from happening. How else can anyone explain how Democrat front-runners dropped out before a single vote was counted on Super Tuesday? The tranny thing was about to blowup in their faces. That has been sidelined for now too. The caravans of illegal aliens have stopped as well. Oddly there is no mention whatsoever about the border at all these days...
     
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    There is no credibility in talking "liberals going too far" and then rambling about socialism. Liberalism and socialism are, by definition, mutually exclusive.Neither is the made-up term 'military socialism' going to impress in the coherency stakes!

    They should make basic political economy compulsory in US school ;)
     
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    I understand the apparent Corrupt Collectivist DOOM that America, and in many ways the world, is rushing into...

    But I think not. For the same reason that Ebola hasn't yet destroyed 30+% of the world's population.

    Epidemiologists call it "Burn Out". Not that Ebola is not a huge threat, it is, but, in an odd way, it is too lethal, too high of a death rate, to easily become a wide-spread threat.

    If a couple of people in a village get Ebola, fairly soon, everyone is dead or dying, and there is no one left with enough energy/means/motivation to run to the next village to spread it. Ebola usually self-limits by burn-out.

    Well, a similar thing exists for Collectivist Government, particularly for Ethnocentric Communist Government! Its the Race-Thang, combined with the ridiculous demands for the In-Group to get a silly high standard of living that kills it.

    In epidemics, it is called "Burn-Out"

    Kamalla Harris wants $2+Million to be granted to each and every Black person, regardless of their current income, or when they arrived in America. Let's say, for the sake of analysis, that this amount is to be paid out in monthly installments over a 50 year lifetime, to the current 43 Million Blacks in America. The rest of the American, some 260 Million Americans are to pay for it.

    So, the Blacks will get $2M / 12 Months X 50 Years = $3333 / Month per person. A nice gig if you can get it and keep it!

    The total cost would be 43 Million Blacks X $3333 a month = 143 Billion per month. The median household income in the U.S. $60, but that's for 128 Million Household, and roughly 30 Million of those are blacks, and so immune from the Race-Redistribution-Tax.

    $143B per month / 98 Million non-Black Households = $1492 / Month in Racial Redistribution payments, or $17500 per year, for life.

    https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2019/09/us-median-household-income-up-in-2018-from-2017.html

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/183635/number-of-households-in-the-us/

    IAW, Kamalla Harris wants to take 30% of the average working white families income in just Slavery Redistribution payments, and they still have to pay all the other taxes as well. And you have to factor in the cost of the wealth redistribution, the loading factor, which for all government hand-out programes, is usually over 100%. Meaning, to give someone $100, it costs $120 to collect and send it too them!

    So, the average family of four working class whites (2 Adults, 2 Kids), will have to live on less than $20K per year, with both parents working... and the system will collapse and "Burn-Out" in just a few years.

    Socialism might work with very, very honest and hard working society.

    Racial Preferences and officially sanctioned racial discrimination might work, if you have a very Capitalistic Society.

    Ethnocentric Redistribution Socialism, will NEVER Work!!!

    As soon as the majority of voters see what attempting such will bring them, the vast majority of Voters will bloc Vote it out of existence!

    Hence... President Trump
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    ~ I disagree.
     
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    That is a bit odd. Border border border was all we heard from the left for years, now crickets.
     
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    May I quote this?
     
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    They clearly have a VERY low opinion of women - laughing at the mere suggestion that we might have the self-discipline of a functioning adult. The misogyny is brazen.
     
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    I'd argue it never existed at all. Marx, lets remember, was a capitalist from a rich family following economic trends to their logical conclusions. Automation making the workforce irrelevant and creating a permanent unemployed class (aka no paycheck, no spending) plus widespread education and mass communication making it impossible to hide exploitation was how capitalism was to die. He expected what's happen now to be the Revolution, not some medieval backwater like Russia or China. What we saw in the 20th Century was Vanguardism, not Marxism.
     
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    It's likely a good deal of that is institutional/generational among the Democrats' old guard. Women numerically outnumber men and their presence at senior-level Democratic Party functions HAS GOT TO increase as the old boys finally die off. Where this leads the party itself is clear: less bashing of women. To get there is going to still take painfully slow time for them.
     
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    Crowing?

    Incapable of recognizing that if someone CAN quit smoking they can delay gratification, be it until they find a condom or a wedding ring. I live in an area where Amish buggies are still seen on the road. It is heavily religious of all persuasions save Islam. I don't "crow" about high standards. I try to have and live them.

    Aw, you ain't seen nuffin yet. When I clear my throat you'll all know it.
     
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