Rep. Matt Gaetz: Bloomberg may face criminal probe for paying felons’ fines

I'm not going to agree with your premise, no matter how many times you misstate the issue..

Bloomie is as free as the wind blows on this one, although I wish he'd put his $100 million to better use than Biden ads in Florida...

 

Have they fullfilled all the legal sanctions to which they were sentenced?

 

He is being investigated, but Florida is being entirely hypocritical.

The requirement that the fines be paid was upheld by a federal appeals court. A key part of the state's argument was that if the felons don't have the funds, the funds could be paid on their behalf. So, they had no issue with it.

So why the issue now, when the project is simply doing what the state said they could do?

 

I will throw you this bone while you are thrashing about futilely

The only way this could be legally trouble for Bloomie is if somehow, his fundraising was conditioned on the FRRC paying off the fees for specific people. If the money went to the group with no preconditions, and they were free to use it as they have been using other donations since 2018, there is zero case here...

Whatever Bloomie's memo or statements say to indicate otherwise..

 

I am not sure what your think he is misstating....Bloomie issued a statement saying that was his entire motive for doing this...

 

There is no issue with fines, or restitution being paid on their behalf...the issue is that Bloomie did it, with the intent to have them vote a certain way....that's a potential violation FL Election laws.

I am thrilled though that the victims of these new dem voters are finally getting their restitution and being made whole

 

Florida law concern vote buying. Do you believe votes should be able to be bought and sold?

 

What are you on about ?

Apparently the eight amendment doesn't matter then ?

Removing their voting rights because of the fine IS a poll tax. It is the literal definition of a poll tax.

And Yes, I am against the 2A being denied to felons. Why does a felon loose their constitutional rights ? Answer....They dont

 

"legal" vs tax. Can you be denied your right to vote if you dont file your federal taxes, or dont pay them ?

 

It's a fine stop fallaciously calling it a tax. And if I commit a felony tax evasion YES I can lose my ability to vote until I meet ALL the stipulations of the legal sanctions.

 

No it is not nor even come close to a tax a tax appplies to everyone. It's a FINE. Why does a felon lose their right to free assemblY and to travel as they see fit? Because they committed a CRIME.

 

Read up on a poll Tax.

until then, have a nice day

 

taxes do not apply to everyone. Thats beyond ridiculous.

 

Personally, the fact that Republicans bent over backwards and tied themselves in knots to deny the will of the people, who voted 2 to 1 to amend the state constitution to restore their right to vote, would affect their choice even more.

 

There is nothing that Republi-cons will not do in order to suppress the vote. The regressive party strikes again.

 

I suggest you read up on what was the poll tax

From 1942



And learn that judges do not pass taxes nor apply taxes to criminals found guilty, they levy FINES and this is about FINES not taxes.

 

A poll tax would apply to every voter, a property tax applies to all property owners. An income tax applies to anyone with an income.

But of course calling a fine a tax is what is beyond ridiculous.

 

Sigh.

Bloomberg made a donation to a charity that is helping get these fines paid. The State of Florida said it was okay for the fines to be paid by someone else. If the state doesn't think it's vote buying, that's all that should matter. Elections are a state matter.

 

A fine is a poll tax. FFS, your being obtuse.

A poll tax is making people pay for something just to have the right to vote. They are illegal.

JFC

 

You dont even know what a poll tax is This post proves it

have a nice day

 

I just posted you a news clipping about poll taxes. You don't even know the difference between a tax and a fine good grief. Where did you get the idea a judge can pass a tax?

 

A fine is a fine and once you pay it you no longer owe it, it is imposed by a judge, only the city council or state legislature or congress can pass and impose a tax. You have to pay your fine regardless of any voting you may want to do.

 

Bloomberg was quite clear he is doing it to entice and affect the vote, that violates Florida law according to some. And BTW those felons have to pay taxes on the $$$ paid on their behalf. But again it begs the question should some one be allowed to serve the prison sentence of someone else?

 

If the state insisted that people pay their own fines, this charity wouldn't exist. It's the state's own rule. There's nothing in the definition of paid debt to society about paying taxes on money paid on their behalf.

If it's true, it's a gift tax, and owing taxes isn't a reason to keep someone from voting.

The charity is not making a secret about its' goal. Bloomberg is merely donating to a charity doing work approved by the state.

 

It's income just as if you paid off my credit card debt it would be income to me and I would have to pay income taxes on it and Bloomberg was quite clear in his intentions which appear to violate the law. The charity violates the INTENT of the law. We fine people as a PUNISHMENT which THEY should bear else what's the point? Again should we allow other people to serve the jail time on the criminals behalf? If not why not?