Apart from a Trump win, nothing will convince Trump fans that the election was not stolen

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know what triggered you, all he has done for minorities. Peace in the ME. Funny how Trump has turned lefties into minority haters and war mongers.
     
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    What you perceive as being triggered is not so. It's a normal reaction from someone who doesn't speak Babylonian.

    I'm a hawk. Vietnam era veteran. Not a lefty. And Trump got a whopping 12% of the black vote.

    Give a holler when reality becomes visible at the end of the tunnel.

    (Or if you ever run into any facts.)

    {Peace in the Middle East? My god, man. Get real.}
     
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  4. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump nearly doubled his black vote from 2016 and increased his % of Hispanics.

    I am a Vietnam era veteran and not a war monger.

    4 nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize for his work towards peace in the ME. Ignore the facts, it is what the left does.
     
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    yep, we have a US President trying to steal the election and override the will of the voters.. it's truly sad!

    that some of his supporters are defending this, is sickening
     
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    None of which excuses Trump's petulant behavior regarding the election
     
  7. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only because you don't want to know the truth.
     
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    hahaha...yes...go with that.
     
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    Don Quixote slaying leftist windmills. Oh brother.

    Try discussing things without the binary intonations. I'll guarantee you I'm more conservative than you are. Your postings indicate it. You're a dove. Lefty. See?

    Trump's nominations are a joke. They weren't peace treaties. The nations are not at war. You know who brought peace to the Middle East? Jimmy Carter.

    The OP is asking what will it take for you to accept a Trump loss? Will you ever accept it?
     
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    Pretty obvious since election integrity is no longer a problem for democrats, even though they were concerned before. Why the 180?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you admit you are a war monger interested in spending our blood and treasure in foreign wars.

    LOL, the nations are not at war. That's the whole point.
     
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    I already said I was a hawk. Is there something about that term that confuses you? Lefties like you are easily confused.
     
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    There is a simple way to tell if you are telling the truth about this ... have Trump supporters called for checking the vote in states Trump won.
    No. They haven't. End of story.
     
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    Yes, you said you are a war monger. You must have been a clerk in the states.
     
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    It is this way because the right, and especially Trump supporters, have observed a straight up assault on free information that doesn't favor the left. Evidence that is damning to them is often played down and ignored as much as possible, while the slightest shred of evidence going the other way is blown up on every news cycle 24 hours of the day. You also now have social media giants actively censoring any opposition to the Biden election or any kind of news or information that favors the right. It was obvious during the Obama years but they at least tried to pretend to be legitimate, however Trump blew the lid off and exposed just how nasty and hateful left leaning news organization are towards right leaning Americans. It showed how far they will go to be intellectually dishonest with Americans in an effort to make them believe the way they want them to believe. As an independent thinker that's terrifying to see people who want things that are not in my best interest being so successful at herding the sheep
     
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    Actually they have, in all 30 states that have Dominion voting machines.
     
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    Hmmm - whining is an ill placed term. I don't see Dems 'whining'.

    As for investigating and letting the justice process take place - I agree. And one after the other, Trump legal teams are withdrawing their cases or they are thrown out.
     
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    A) Why do you believe Dems aren't interested in election integrity? I haven't seen any Dems say they are against election integrity
    B) Speaking for myself, I'm all for election integrity. What I am against is pre-emptively claiming one side is going to steal the election. What I am against is claiming one side won by illegal votes despite having ZERO evidence of such.
    C) Why are there Conservatives who weren't concerned about election integrity in 2016 but all of a sudden are so in 2020? Why the 180? Oh right...because Trump told them to be concerned.
     
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    When they're able to fantasize that Trump's collusion with Russia during the campaign was a "hoax," when they characterize impeachment for the Ukraine shakedown as a power-grab pretext, it's no surprise the Trumpkins have convinced themselves of this. Trump was grooming them for it months before the election.

    Trump is an illegitimate occupant of the White House, no "president" worth the name. But he legally wields the powers of the Presidency. Trump supporters however are claiming that Biden is not only illegitimate as a leader, but has stolen the election. Given that so many Trumpists are armed and dangerous, the Secret Service has its work cut out for them protecting Biden - and, especially, Harris.
     
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    I still like the electoral college. It’s important for ensuring the less populous areas of the U.S. are not discarded. What I don’t like is the new GOP’s willingness to distort the truth, violate democratic norms, and undermine the integrity of our electoral system so they can hold onto power. We can argue over what will happen, but we should be able to agree about what did happen and what is happening.
     
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    That claim has been contradicted by Trump's own legal filings.
     
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    Wasn't it republicans that called for the mueller investigation? You might want to walk C back
     
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    You leftists speak this strange language. Sorry, that's incomprehensible.

    Have fun at your peace rally. Don't spit in my face, please.
     
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  24. Hoosier8

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    In 2016 no one thought Trump had a chance so no need. 2020, Trump is wildly popular and won on election night only to loose in the middle of the night when no watchers were present. I am sure you can comprehend the issue, or not.
     
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    There is one upside to this. Future generations will not be deluded about Trump, the way his Cultists are. They will find it hard to credit that anyone really supported this cartoon Caligula... but they won't be able to deny it, when millions of Trump supporters are still spouting their unhinged beliefs, decades from now.
     

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