Oregon fines Salem gym $90,000 for staying open, violating COVID-19 order

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  1. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    So long as it's a "national emergency", it becomes who we are. Glad to establish that.
     
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    Incorrect, they failed to prove the point you think they did.

    I'm not required to post a link, regardless of my choosing not to make you be an informed person, the objective fact remains I am correct.

    If you really cared about truth, you would do your own research.
     
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    Trump could recend that at anytime, he has not done so yet, but yes, during a pandemic, you can be asked to close your businesses
     
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    Dems failed policies killed them.

    Such as putting infected people in old folks homes smh.
     
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    Trump declared us at war and said he was a war time President against a invisible enemy, sadly Trump threw up the white flag

    as for nursing homes

    "The Trump Administration’s Deregulation of Nursing Homes Leaves Seniors and Disabled at Higher Risk for COVID-19"


    https://www.americanprogress.org/is...leaves-seniors-disabled-higher-risk-covid-19/

    "Why are nursing homes being hit so hard by the outbreak? One reason is that they are a target of the Trump administration’s aggressive deregulation agenda."

    "In response, the nursing home lobby again advocated for less oversight, and in July 2019, the Trump administration proposed new rules relaxing the requirements tied to infection control. It suggested that consultants could be used, instead of requiring infection specialists to be employed at the site, at minimum, on a part-time basis. This meant that there was no longer a requirement for a full-time, hands-on expert in infection contamination on-site."

    the reality is, Nursing Homes should have separated infected people, they failed to do this, hospitals could not give up a bed for everyone that showed no symptoms and tested positive, not enough beds
     
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    never said you were required too, you're free not to if you don't have anything to back up what you say
     
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    If people like Andrew Como didn't forcing ALFs then they woudl still be alive. Andrew Como kills people
     
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    Trump took actions weeks before democrats ever began to take this seriously, they told people to go outisde in large numbers, that it was perfectly safe. Dems put infected people in nursing homes causing people to die, ALOT of people. These deaths are on the dem politicians hands, the ones you support so religiously.
     
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    Everything I have said is the objective truth.

    Your refusal to do your own research to verify, is your own fault.
     
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    Knock it off with Trump’s lies killed people. What about Pelosi and de blasio that you constanlty ignore?calling trump a racist for wanting to ban travel which you constantly ignore. And your bs impeachment at the time which tied him up which you constantly ignore.
     
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    Trump admitted he lied and played it down

    yet Trump had plenty of time for rallies and golf... right?

    [​IMG]
     
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    it's not, but your free to believe that in your own mind if you want too, I can't stop you
     
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    ALF's are their homes, they should have been separated from the general population there when they become sick, same as if they had the flu

    it's obvious Trump's deregulation have had an effect and they were no longer doing that to save money

    there were not enough beds for hospitals to admit patients showing no symptoms, that is just the reality of it

    is your State using up beds for the elderly that have no symptoms?
     
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    And the left, during the China virus, assembled everyone to attend impeachment hearings, held debates, held primaries, and had extremely peaceful riots.
     
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    yes, cause the Trump admin played it down....

    when Dems in Congress realized the threat and shared their concerns, Trump called their concerns a hoax
     
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    It is, backed up by facts. Your refusal to do your own research is your own fault.
     
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    then post a link to these so called facts you speak
     
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    Incorrect, Trump called the dem reaction the hoax, he was very clear about that.

    First, dems claim its not that big of a deal and Trump was a racist for banning travel.

    Then, they claim Trump is killing people by not taking action quicker...action dems never once suggested we take while they were instead focused on a sham impeachment.

    Trump saved millions of lives, dem politicians took hundreds of thousands.
     
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    Its not my job to make you be an informed person, its your job to do your own research and be informed yourself.
     
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    Democrat mayors and governors defied trump at every turn when it came to illegals. But when their own people are at risk of dying from the China virus they followed his directives to a T. Is that what you want me to believe, that libs follow orders to such an extent that they’ll die I order to obey? And from Trump no less.
     
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    China and WHO played it down and the left backed them up. I’m sure Beijing Biden has no recollection of this.
     
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    More than declared, CAUSED

    If Trump had acted like he had the brains God gave Amebas the COVID would be a memory, and a quarter-million more of us would be alive
     
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    Nor do I, largely because it didn't happen. China actually WELDED people in their homes. The WHO said we should all wear masks. Trump ALONE said it was a hoax and tried to seize States PPE if they hadn't been 'nice' to him.
     
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    China allowed people to travel internationally, WHO said travel bans were not necessary, and the hoax thing is taken out of context and it seems to work on low IQ people. Hope you’re not one of them.
     
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    I did not say Trump called the virus a hoax, I said he called the dems concerns about the virus a hoax

    this is what I said "when Dems in Congress realized the threat and shared their concerns, Trump called their concerns a hoax"
     
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