Teaching Progressive/Leftist Ideology in our Schools

<COMMENTS EDITED>



THEN there is the FACT that it is the EXTREMIST RIGHT that are SCIENCE DENIALISTS that have been trying to eradicate it from the Public School curricula.

Combine that with their OWN attempt to REWRITE the history books so that their racist forbears owning SLAVES is "whitewashed" and what you have is full blown HYPOCRISY!

Sad!

 

I just find it amazing that courses concerning the sociology of Miley Cyrus is PAID FOR by someone.
When I went to a self professed liberal arts uni in New York, the term meant it covered a wide number of subjects, but never included celebs as a reason to hold lectures!
I also well remember the first course offered in Black American History, somewhat of a milestone back then. It was because the uni looked at the world widely and lived up to its name of Liberal Arts.

Tell me, what would you like to see included in school curriculum? Conspiracy Theory 101? The Evils of Socialism for 11th graders? Why you should carry a gun for 5th graders?

My major was Eng Lit. We studied text from all periods and were asked to comment. All opinions welcomed as long as they were justified. It was worth the money because Liberal arts then encouraged us to think for ourselves and how to compare ideas. Possibly the most valuable lesson for life.

 

With all the manure in there I don't think fertility is a problem.

 

You got something against the development aura? Simple typo dude. Darned word nazis. Smh.

Teach the controversy. Remember that?

Teach the Controversy | Discovery Institute

Thank Janus that's in the rear view mirror.

 

Exactly, and welcome.

Electives without students don't last long. The far right conspiracy involves authoritarian control over our entire educational system, by communists and leftists and elites, where freedom to choose electives is only a facade.

 

No it's not. The fastest growing demographics in America support creationism. It will be interesting to see what happens in communities of color when white liberals come in and try to force "their truth" on marginalized communities of color. I don't have a dog in this hunt but I will certainly have popcorn.

 

That's irrelevant to my point. Intelligent design lost in Kitzmiller v. Dover 2005.

People can believe what they want, and private schools can teach what they want. Creationism is religion, and can't be taught as science in public schools.

 

Please stop being rational and logical....it only confuses him

 

"Philosophy in the Twilight Zone" might have some value given the state of society nowadays.

 

One thing is for certain: There will be lots of future college courses about the philosophy and the mindsets behind Trumpism.

 

True. They are just a few examples to describe what is rampant. When I went to school there was never a mention of political ideology. Classes were about the subject of the course and those subjects had meaning to the future lives of the students. I was never "recruited" for anything political in school or college.

I took a course in Homeric Greek in high school. Pretty silly, huh? The truth is it has helped me more in life than mathematics since my career didn't require mathematics. If I were an engineer then mathematics would have been just the ticket. I never saw a political ideology course even offered. I can't but think we had better education in those days.

 

I don't give a rats ass that some colleges offer those ELECTIVES. The overwhelming majority of students aren't taking those courses. And what exactly do you think is going to happen when a person takes one of those courses? That the person will instantly turn into a progressive zombie? Does taking an economics class instantly turn someone into an economist? Does taking a biology course instantly turn someone into a biologist? You're working yourself up over nothing.

And it's an outright lie to say math and English are being eliminated in US school systems. Even civics is required in 39 states. I'm not as concerned about civics because it's clear that those who were taught civics "back in the day" didn't really learn it given how many don't even understand the 1st amendment. I was taught civics "back in the day" but learned much more reading on my own.

 

Classes are still about the subject. It's odd you think teachers are just teaching political ideology and "recruiting".
Most kids don't like school and more so don't like their teachers. Yet somehow people think these kids, who don't like their teachers, are listening and following what they have to say? Ya...not likely.

 

I'm not arguing results. I'm arguing against including political ideology in the classroom in any way in any school either commonly or rarely. It has no place there.

 

Agreed it has no place in regards to pushing ones ideology. I'm just saying it's not a pervasive as some want to say it is.

 

I have no worries about teaching political ideology, in fact it could be very useful, AS LONG AS you teach it all.
That way you may stop naive people buying into a belief sold in parcels of information which sound tempting, without knowing the full span of the ideology.

 

I am a university professor teaching chemistry. There is usually no ideology involved. However, unfortunately, even science becomes more and more politicized. A good example is covid. In my biophysics class in the last fall, I talked a couple of times about covid testing and vaccines, because it was relevant for the material taught in the class. Plus, STEM students need to know how covid test, vaccines etc. work, so they can educate their friends/family, some of whom may not have a science background. Of course, I was extremely careful to always mention that none of this is political, but purely based on scientific facts. Otherwise, some QAnon believing student in the class may have written reviews about me being a lefty brainwashing them. Scary times, when facts stop mattering.

Another one is the greenhouse effect. let's not even go there....

 

Question: Should economics departments stop teaching about the Austrian school of economics? Mandated by who?

 

Has anyone in this thread ever changed or decided on their political ideology due to a teacher or professor? I'll start...I didn't. My political ideology was predominately formed due to my parents as is the case with majority of people.

 

Or, someone's political ideology is formed as exactly opposite of that of the parents. Some kids like to rebel. Ask me how I know....

 

They should teach anything that relates to economics. Mandated by common sense. The idea is to teach the subject not imbue the classroom with ideology.

 

Well, that would be pretty tough to do if you are a Political Science Major/Minor.

 

Of course that happens...but as you pointed out, it was more due to rebelling.

 

Not at all. One can teach the concepts, history, process etc of politics without being partisan. They did it when I was a student.

If you have ever heard U of VA professor Larry Sabato provide political analysis you would see non partisanship in the flesh. Teaching political science without partisanship is just as possible as teaching any other subject.