Teaching Progressive/Leftist Ideology in our Schools

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  1. ECA

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    A person or persons allegedly threatening for removal does not mean one side was heard. Obviously another side was heard....hence the "threat".
    Says, there are cases where people from both sides get shouted down. There are countless examples of right-wingers going to Left wing rallies to shout them down and oppose them just as there are Lefties who shout down Right wing rallies. It's happening all over the place. People are out of control.

    Again, most kid can't stand their teachers so I don't know how you can think they will somehow be influence by them. Majority of people are more influenced by their parents or friends.
     
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    You are just cherry picking the most ridiculous examples you can find in the whole country. Weak.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one likes lawyers either, but still follow their advice. Bottom line, teachers are mostly Democrats and do use their influence to push their political beliefs. I strongly oppose religion and politics being imposed on students. I will have no trouble making a case that it is not BS.
     
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    Sorry, that was a really bad analogy. You have to listen to your lawyers advice, unless you want to go to jail or get sued or whatever. You don't have to listen to a teachers advice regarding something outside of the subject area he/she teaches
     
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    Neither do I. I'm married to a retired teacher. She has two sisters, both retired teachers....both married to retired teachers. If a teacher did something like that and the principle became aware of it you can be assured he/she would be disciplined for it.
    The incessant whining by conservatives about liberal indoctrination in public schools is baseless.
     
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    Some people like to play the victim card
     
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    I don't see any logic in any of that but you are certainly entitled to an opinion.
     
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    I would say "Yes" but not intentionally to suppress another's opinion or normal thoughts or beliefs.. It's like this with my generation and growing up. I have worked/interacted with great people of all walks of life, on the other hand the same mixture of people but total jerks.. So I'm more inclined to tell/make it known to a person just how they are, lazy, useless, full of themselves regardless of <insert whatever todays popular trigger/guilt/variable word here>.. I simply don't judge people based on stereotypical leftist qualifiers, I judge them on there actions, whereas today there is WAY to much forethought going into every conversation with everyone and anyone of any sex, race, religion, party and literally dozens of other ridiculous THINGS to consider when engaging another HUMAN..

    It's like every word you are going to say must be processed, looked at what potential misunderstanding or opening to purposely taken out of context so as to throw you off turning the encounter all about you and not the subject at hand..
     
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    I remember what it is like to dislike teachers, but than never meant I did not see them as intelligent people. None of this negates the fact that teachers do use their influence to push political beliefs. .


    Disciplined how? I reported what my sons teacher said and they told us "Thats just her opinion"

    There is no refuting the fact that it happens; the only this we can honestly discuss is how much. Do you agree with the college threatening to remove a student for not restricting his actions to the "free speech zone" while students and staff did not receive such a threat during their Hillary rally?
     
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    By noting the incident in the teacher's permanent record and by making him/her aware repeated incidents will result in termination.

    "I reported what my sons teacher said and they told us "Thats just her opinion"

    Not credible given the virtually universal policy against doing such things. But it's a nice story.
     
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    "I don't believe you" is not much of an argument. There are enough cases to refute that these claims are baseless. The only honest discussion we can have is how much it happens.

    Back to the case where a student was threatened with removal for handing out copies of the constitution while students and staff held pro-Hillary, anti-Trump rallies without such threats. Is that something you support?
     
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    Joking? Your story isn't plausible. Citing it as a way to substantiate your perspective isn't much of an argument.......it's no argument at all.
     
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    Back to the case where a student was threatened with removal for handing out copies of the constitution while students and staff held pro-Hillary, anti-Trump rallies without such threats. Is that something you support?
     
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    IOW's your position is based ENTIRELY upon Confirmation Biased ANECDOTES?

    Sad!
     
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    The SUM of all ANECDOTES equals Confirmation Bias, NOT factual data!

    How many hundreds of thousands of student learning hours did NOT contain any of those asinine ANECDOTES of yours?
     
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    Isn't "problem" a trigger word then?

    How about expressions which label others like "culture of self loathing" and "guilt"?
    None of which I feel though you would instantly think I did, considering I am delighted the right leaning USA is now put on the back burner. A leftie to you...

    Maybe you could find a way to see a 360° view if you stopped describing your reality in purely political terms?
     
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    When I first began college, many years ago, I always remember how different it was from grade K-12. In school they tried to socially control, and maybe program the students. How often times ones grade depended a bit on one’s behavior. If one was good enough of a “citizen” or not. If one participated in the proscribed way. How well one obeyed the rules. But then they are teaching children and adolescents, who lack maturity. In college, there were few constraints on me. It wasn’t like I was doing bad things, just that I never felt comfortable with someone always looking over my shoulder, judging my every move. They trusted me to act like an adult, I guess. I always felt the professors treated me with a great deal of respect, and I always felt comfortable talking to them. There was always this attitude that they were giving us the knowledge and skills to become the leaders of tomorrow. I think that overall, college was a very good experience for me.

    CRT Cathode Ray Tube, the thing that displays the picture in old fashion televisions, the picture tube.
     
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    Why would a conservative student be spouting his ideology in the classroom? Why would a student expect a professor to address his conservative ideology outside of a political science class? Generally though, conservative ideology isn’t always all that compatible with what is taught at public universities. And for good reason.

    Like for instance, in many science classes, the college would have to have alternate classes for the conservatives. Make sure that no evolution or global warming is mentioned. Alternate history classes too. Especially alternate American history classes. Alternate recent American history.
     
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    Are the parents going to follow the student around to monitor his/her behavior?
     
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    It is true at least in my parts at university. The progressive voices are 100:1 among faculty and they are passionate. English is about women and misogyny. Political science is centered on minorities and egalitarianism. History is centered around white transgressions. Public relations is focused on political correctness. I can see the way people are radicalized in college and actually I can prove it using public opinion data.
    They are man. Progressives dominate higher education. Had one professor who wore a hammer and sickle lapel pin to class every day. I have admin figures calling for chief diversity officers and student organizations promoting explicit racism at school. All of my teachers believe in trannies and white privilege. If you're looking to see where the next generation is being dumbed down, look to college classrooms.
     
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    A CRT is a Cathode Ray Tube. The most common being the picture tube in old television sets. I never learned about them in college, other than perhaps a quick description, as they have an electron gun that is aimed by a magnetic field. So it was of some interest in the development and history of physics. I learned the most about them from reading the manufacturers‘ data sheets. The most significant thing about them is that it takes a voltage of something like 27,000 volts, enough to kill you. I’ve never been a fan of vacuum tubes, because of the need for such high voltages. More than one musician has died from electrocution from a faulty tube amp. I am so glad we have transistors.

    I could be wrong on this, but I think that CRT’s are one of those things that would have been taught in an electrical technician course on television repair. Kind of a mute point these days.
     
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    I think it was in fifth grade when my daughter flunked her DARE class. The students had to write a final essay about what they had learned. Hers was to inform them that she knew they were trying to manipulate her opinions.
     
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    I attended a Catholic school. Opposing beliefs were not well tolerated. I’m pretty sure that indoctrination was part of the curriculum. Or, in my case, attempted indoctrination.
     
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    My question to you is this: Have you ever seen on any of the lame stream (fake news) TV stations, or even on FOX TV...any Republican or Conservative saying or using the race card in debating or in labeling a lefty as a racist? We witnessed 4 years or more of liberals everywhere labeling Trump as this White supremacist racist, and labeled virtually every Trump supporter as in bed with Q-anon (whatever that this), with the KKK, with White supremacists et al. You got to admit that the labeling of Conservatives/Republicans by you dems as racists fit beautifully into your agenda narrative that was meant to take attention away from all of Trump's record breaking accomplishments for America.
    On a side note, its really you lefties that have a straight out abundance of racists in the dem party. I could start with the members of your squad as perfect examples of racists, and I'll leave it there for now, for its the conservative love for people in me that refuses to get into a racist name
    calling game with you lefties.
     
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