Teaching Progressive/Leftist Ideology in our Schools

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  1. Quantum Nerd

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    This is a very good analysis.

    With most students in my classes, the challenge is to make them think critically and take the contrarian viewpoint more often, not less often. Most of them just want to pass and get an A or A-, so they can get into medical school. I always tell them that in 10 years from now, nobody cares what grade they got in class X or Y. But, everybody cares if they can problem solve and think critically, especially if they are in a leading position. Making that transition from being only result-focused to focusing on the process is part of the learning experience.
     
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    How dare you indoctrinate your students into thinking critically : )
     
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    Exactly. Is it possible to take Economics without learning about Marx? Learning about Marx/Marxism is not the same as preaching it.

    I had to write critical analyses of novels from different perspectives such as Marxist, Feminist, Psychological, Moral, Post-Colonial, and others. This had nothing to do with being Marxist or any of the others, but about seeing works through different lenses. It was rough at first, but I learned a lot.
     
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    Totally agree. Those grades are one of many factors that will get you your first job, but after that, it's all about what you learned. The Progressive schools mentioned in the OP are a good example of how the focus from grades to learning is a good thing. But that stuff's not for everyone.

    I often told my students that their grades would get them a letter of acceptance into a college or university, but what they actually learn is what will keep them there. Make 'em think!
     
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    I went to Mason. I found it a bit on the conservative side generally but I was in a different program. A lot of the profs I had were pragmatic more than ideological though. ( https://catalog.gmu.edu/colleges-schools/policy-government/government-international-politics-ba/ )
     
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    Yup! But, some bad folks have worked their way in.

    K-12 IMPLOSION UPDATE: 43,000+ Teacher Association Leader Is ‘Revolutionary Socialist’ Following Mao’s Teachings, Weaponizing Schools Into ‘Revolutionary’ Hotbeds.

    The Vice President of North Carolina’s largest teachers’ association is a self-avowed Marxist activist linked to Liberation Road – a “revolutionary socialist” group that follows the teachings of Karl Marx and Mao Zedong.



    He also addresses a special significance to targeting schools:

    Build a common project or campaign with folks who are in social movement organizations, community organizations, unions, schools, and revolutionary organizations. Base the project on local investigation of issues that folks can develop and work on together. We need more base-building, more mass movement. That’s how we create space for people to change their own realities. Revolutionaries, together, have a big role to play here. Doing this kind of work with those that we haven’t before will help to build trust and lasting political relationships that can take us to a higher-level of struggle.

    Proffitt was also interviewed in 2008 as part of the “Heirs to a Fighting Tradition: Oral Histories of North Carolina Social Justice Activists” project. During the interview, he insisted “capitalism has to go,” before calling for a revolutionary party:


     
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    CRT=The Critical Race Theory garbage.

    LEAVE MY DOGS OUT OF YOUR ANTISOCIAL PATHOLOGIES: Critical Race Theory Is Coming for the Dogs: Katja Guenther’s ‘The Lives and Deaths of Shelter Animals.’
     
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    Tolerance and inclusiveness should be taught.
    Nothing wrong with that.
     
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    Does Islam have an impact on USA laws and morals? Not that I'm aware of.
     
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    There is nothing wrong with teaching tolerance and inclusiveness.

    Does that bother you? Why?
     
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    Tolerance and inclusiveness? Those two ideals are just the opposite of what today's ultra liberal/socialist
    professors spew out to their students.
     
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    I am certain, economics classes teach economics.
    And elective classes teach what the elective class teaches.
     
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    I disagree with your opinion.

    It is easier to include those who differ in points of view or looks, etc, if one is tolerant of others beliefs or looks.
     
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    You can not be telling the truth.
    I've seen many posters claim there is no critical thinking allowed in colleges anymore.

    So, don't go telling us you challenge student to think critically. /end sarcasm.
     
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    That's exactly my point. There isn't any liberal/socialist/progressive professor who is going to come close to being
    tolerant of a Conservative point of view or a Conservative's ideological outlook. If there are some I haven't been
    aware of them.
     
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    And how would you know?
    Are you a college student?

    I seriously doubt there's many professors stopping conservatives view points. If they do, they will be fired.
     
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    Its not necessarily that these professors are stopping a conservative view, rather, its that they simply don't engage
    in serious debate with the conservative once they present their view.
     
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    IRONIC given that it is the OP that is "spewing out" the exact OPPOSITE to "tolerance and inclusiveness".

    Sad!
     
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    It is an inherent CONTRADICTION to teach tolerance of the INTOLERANCE embodied in the extremist rightwing racist "point of view" and/or "ideological outlook".

    It is NOT liberals who need to learn the meaning of tolerance.

    Instead it is those spewing racial INTOLERANCE who MUST learn the meaning of tolerance.
     
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    Nor should they.
    Unless the class is about political viewpoints.
     
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    Because it is a WASTE of the professors time to engage with CLOSE MINDED intolerant racist bigots.

    Furthermore that wastes the time and MONEY of the other students.

    The professor is there to provide his students with KNOWLEDGE.

    Any intolerant bigoted extremist rightwing student is probably INCAPABLE of learning because of Cognitive Dissonance occurring whenever it CONTRADICTS his racist prejudices.
     
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    So this thread is essentially throwing seeds of anti-intellectualism. Like most right wing conspiracies', its essential to keep the lie going so that when conditions are right it will sprout into an important part of the fascist design.
     
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    Did you actually sit in any of the classes you cite in your opening post? Did you check their syllabus? No, you just extrapolate from the title to confirm the misguided view you have of professors and universities. A view based on anti-intellectualism propaganda.

    How do you know that the courses do not use a flashy title, but discuss all viewpoints in the classroom, including contrarian ones? If you can post the bulletin or syllabus of these courses, maybe one can start a more informed discussion.
     
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    I agree. As long as they keep politics out of the class room then everything should be fine.
     
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    It should be taught by parents. I'm not sure schools should focus on behavior. They should concentrate on academics.
     
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