What's up with repubs opposing the stimulus bill?

Two bill in four years...

 

Dude a bunch of Rep. Law makers went to talk to biden. They were basically told to go pound sand.

 

I meant the first one passed in the Trump administration. I think it was March 2020.

 

So you were wrong, then. Big of you to admit it.

 

Yet you didn't mind it with Trump's "SALT" deduction screwed blue states, did you?

Of course not.

 

It's judges, tax cuts AND voter suppression.

 

With 45% of Americans believing in ghosts and demons, maybe not so much.......

 

Did a Republican collect on the decrease in spending he voted for?

The SALT deductions forced well run states to subsidize states whose finances were bungled.

 

Yes. There were some bad ideas in it in order to get anything say all out if Dems you have to let them do some if the stupid things they always want to do.

 

To appear sanctimonious, Dems polluted the bill with waste to draw opposition. If you oppose spending on a new bridge etc., you are killing grandma.

 

They support getting free money for the government. Really? No kidding.

Let me see if I can sum this up in one quote:

"When the people realize that they can vote themselves money from the treasury, that will herald the end of the republic"

 

I wish I had a $100 for every time I have read or heard someone ask that very question... But to be fair, my conservatives do the same crap too.. That's the history of politics from the time they all started capturing our money from temporary tax levying!!

 

Ah, now it is 75% of Americans in the moocher category, up from 48% from when Romney was running. Your side better be careful, if you keep going this way, there won't be any hardworking (i.e. non-moocher) Americans left to vote for the GOP in another 10 years.

 

If 75% of Americans supported it, I would need to know the questions asked in the poll. I could get nobody to support it except potential recipients of checks with the right questions. No true conservative that understands the bill and its ramifications could support it. It is spending for the sake of spending. Bailing out other governments with federal funds should be illegal, not part of a spending bill.

 

That would be 91.7% of households receiving the checks. Because only 8.3% of households make above $150,000, the cutoff.

 

Absolutely!!!!

 

It that is correct then I would say the vote buying is working pretty well.

 

We don't think it is waste, (most of it, anyway, I haven't read all of it ) every thing in that bill would have become a separate bill, anyway. So why put it all in the BR?

For one thing, drawing opposition wasn't the reason. Given McConnell, based on his history, intends filibuster anything and everything democrats will propose, democrats, to avoid that plight as much as possible, put everything in the bill that the parliamentarian would allow, so as to not have to put them in separate bills only to have them filibustered by republicans.

With the 'filibuster everything' repubs hurt themselves. If they would cooperate, negotiate, compromise, etc., on bills dems propose, dems wouldn't have bundled all those other things in the BR, we'd put them in separate bills on good faith repubs would do like they used to, in the old days, debate, amend, etc. But, since they are filibustering everything, they won't have the opportunity to challenge all that other stuff since dems now are forced to stuff it all in the only process we have to get something passed, the budget reconciliation process. But, there is light on the horizon.

Dems are going to change the rules back to the old days, when, if you filibustered, you had to go to the floor, and talk for hours in order to run out the clock, and reading from Dr. Seuss will not be allowed, you'll have to argue your case, why the bill should be shot down. That's the way it used to be, when the filibuster wasn't used for everything, it was used for only those bills the party felt really strongly about. Manchin as stated he will vote in favor of the change. When we do, it will help restore sanity to Budget Recon bills and lawmaking in general.

 

Years of tax breaks for the rich have caused deficits to soar, leading to inflation, which is a tax on those who cannot hedge, and that is the poor.

How that happens, well, it's like this;

In fact, the rich benefit more from inflation in asset-accruing investments than they pay in taxes. It's just the opposite for the poor, who cannot hedge, who pay for it in lagging wages and eroded purchasing power.

The whole purpose of shifting the burden of taxation to the rich, is that they are the ones with money, they are the ones to benefit from a system that is rigged in their favor, so they should pay all the taxes, not just some. Because if we do not do this, it leads to deficits and erosion of purchasing power, which taxes the poor because they cannot hedge. Yes, government spending is a factor. Repubs want bloated military budgets, and reduce entitlements, and dems want the reverse. In the meantime, budget increases are built into the system and no one knows how to stop it. Given that is fact, the best thing we can do to unburden the poor is to raise taxes on the rich, to reduce deficits which are financed by fiat currency (simply put, it's a little more complicated ) and treasury bonds.

 

Mitch McConnell's role in not allowing a vote on the previous stimulus might have been the difference in those 2 Georgia senate races. Had the vote taken place and Perdue and Loeffler had supported it like Trump wanted the republicans might control the senate now.

It was a missed opportunity.

Republicans have never been fiscally responsible anyway. Why now? People want those damn $1400 checks. What idiots!

 

Because it's NOT A STIMULUS BILL. Most of the $$$ in it does not go to stimulus.

90% of the $$$$ goes to Democratic Cronies and Donors. It bails out New York Budget Deficits. It pays off Public Union scams. It is foreign aid.

They are giving $$$ to less people that Trump did.

If you have the Republicans a straight up or down vote on $2,000 checks being sent out, instead of this abomination, it would sail right through.

The only read people are "FOR" it, is because they don't know what is in it thanks to a complicit MSM.

 

What a blow hard.

 

We have great ideas, libs aren't smart enough to see it.

 

Ya, opposing the stimulus bill is crazy. Nothing wrong with it at all!

 

Tax payers should strongly oppose pushing pork under the guise of helping those in need. This is corruption. nothing more.

BTW, reading Dr. Seuss is frowned on.