Biden’s ‘kids in cages’ prove his hypocrisy on immigration.

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by chris155au, Feb 25, 2021.

  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Funny how it wasn't a red herring under Trump, but it suddenly is now that Biden is President! :roflol:
     
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2021
  2. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,028
    Likes Received:
    17,321
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It' not about cages, it's about stopping the policy of permanent separation. The cages thing is a red herring.

    No one is for open borders. You're given to hysterics. Chill out.
     
  3. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,028
    Likes Received:
    17,321
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The cages issue is a red herring to divert attention from the real issue of separating children from parents.
     
  4. a better world

    a better world Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2016
    Messages:
    5,000
    Likes Received:
    718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Cruelty? To repeat: there are 70 million refugees in this world fleeing war and poverty.

    You don't think your 'sovereignty of the individual' competitive free market ideology has anything to do with it?

    eg, the globalization-caused economic misery of the 'rust belt' in the US itself (who supported Trump in 2016) is one thing, but most of rest of the world is in an even worse situation......

    Maybe some managed co-operation on behalf of economic development in all nations is necessary....
     
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2021
  5. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So then you were against it when 'kids in cages' was used under Trump?
     
  6. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,028
    Likes Received:
    17,321
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No, the salient issue is the wrongful separation of kids from parents.
    Kids in cages is a red herring. Just something a few in the media latched onto.
     
  7. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes, so then you were against when 'kids in cages' was used under Trump!
     
  8. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,028
    Likes Received:
    17,321
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Reread my rebuttal, please.
     
  9. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You seem to be saying that the cries of "kids in cages" under Trump was a distraction from the "salient issue" which was family separation.
     
  10. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,128
    Likes Received:
    51,801
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Biden’s Gag Order on the Border Patrol.

    [​IMG]

    Democracy Dies In Darkness
     
    chris155au likes this.
  11. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2013
    Messages:
    15,580
    Likes Received:
    5,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    My first sentence was about children who were accompanied by their parents and why they may have chosen to leave them in US custody while they headed back home without them and did not want to be found. I also provided a reason why they chose not to be found. I'm willing to bet the children who are now coming across the border were either accompanied by a parent to the US border but did not enter or if the child was old enough to make the journey on their own had the blessings of their parent(s) to do so to see their children avoid joining gangs at home or being murdered for not joining gangs. Isn't this the liberal's claim families are leaving their homes to find a safe country to live?
     
  12. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    13,881
    Likes Received:
    9,413
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Aa I said to the other user: if you can't or won't see the difference, there's nothing I can say.
     
  13. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2019
    Messages:
    13,881
    Likes Received:
    9,413
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And you're cont
    I wouldn't.
     
  14. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2013
    Messages:
    15,580
    Likes Received:
    5,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So you've been to these child encampments? If they are not free to leave then tell me what's so different about them? Is CBP treating them nicer? Better food? Comfier beds? Do they get to watch cartoons? Being more specific with your answer can make you more creditable in your assessment.
     
  15. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,028
    Likes Received:
    17,321
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Indeed, permanent family separation due faulty record keeping by the Trump administration, for no crime greater than a misdemeanor, IS the salient issue.

    As for 'cages', all the substandard considerations, if there are any, do have to be addressed, but a photo, in and of itself, doesn't tell the tale, necessarily, so I would need to see an IG report, or something along those lines. In other words, any claims of substandard treatment of children, I'll need to see more details.
     
    chris155au likes this.
  16. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,028
    Likes Received:
    17,321
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The issue, for me, was Trump's incompetent handling of separated children, where their sloppy book keeping prevented reunions.
     
  17. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2013
    Messages:
    15,580
    Likes Received:
    5,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Trying to get accurate information from people who left their country for a number of reasons is probably a lot like herding cats. How's Biden handling the crisis on the border? This is what happens when you look weak on immigration. Biden has created a mess and his promise of more transparency is not there. What exactly is Biden trying to hide? You can't say this is Trump's fault. It's easy to second guess someone when you're not in charge.

    https://theleoterrell.com/psaki-dodges-questions-on-border-crisis-and-lack-of-transparency/

    Psaki Dodges Questions On Border Crisis And Lack Of Transparency
     
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2021
  18. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,028
    Likes Received:
    17,321
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    A subject for another thread, so start one.
     
  19. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,128
    Likes Received:
    51,801
    Trophy Points:
    113
    “THIS IS NOT A CRISIS, THIS IS A FULL-BLOWN DISASTER”: Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick On Biden’s Border Crisis.

    ‘We were able to relax under the Trump Administration because he actually did his job and we were in good shape on the border, before Biden got elected. We were in good shape. The protocols were working, keeping the asylum seekers in Mexico.’
     
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2021
  20. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Okay, so everything that you're saying tells me that you were against when 'kids in cages' was used under Trump!
     
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2021
  21. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Did you intentionally quote my post in this reply?
     
  22. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2017
    Messages:
    41,176
    Likes Received:
    4,365
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Are they?
     
  23. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2013
    Messages:
    15,580
    Likes Received:
    5,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    My guess is no.
     
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2021
  24. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2013
    Messages:
    15,580
    Likes Received:
    5,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It's all part of Biden's hypocrisy on the border crisis.
     
  25. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,028
    Likes Received:
    17,321
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    No, I"m against child abuse.
     
    chris155au likes this.

Share This Page