Derek Chauvin Murder Trial is on

That's also false, you are making things up. There was multiple testimony by multiple expert witnesses that the level of restraint and force applied was excessive, unnecessary and contrary to his training.

 

There was no fight because they expertly restrained him. I'm pointing out that we expect the police to have violent confrontation, the only people in society who really do.

That's 100% true, unless someone can develop a process for x-rays to go through the trouser leg in the photo? Floyd had no injuries so there is no physical evidence.

 

You have no clue what you're talking about or you're just making crap up. The expert witness, Dr. Martin Tobin, currently testifying has done extensive analysis, you haven't.

 

Yes and I've listened to it, hence my posts, people are just taking advantage of the death of a despicable drug addict to advance their identity politics agenda, it's disgusting.

 

So have I and I'm still listening. Your posts directly contradict the testimony of an expert witness who is a pulmonologist. Who also just testified as to the moment of Floyd's death.

It's also just your opinion, irrelevant and a non sequitur to this case, which is about the murder of George Floyd by Derek Chauvin.

 

Chauvin did, as the police chief and training officer told you.

 

No. Everyone with eyes know where the pressure was applied.

This last doctor destroyed Chauvin defense completely. Its pretty much a game over. Its textbook example of manslaughter.

 

Not even close.

It was game over when that home invasion enthusiast took too much fent and decided to commit crimes while arguing with the police, a repeat of what he did exactly in 2019.

 

I could listen to 'Buri' in the internet, or I can believe my own eyes and the testimony of a medical expert.

 

It is STANDARD procedure which they were following. It was Floyd who decided he wanted to be on the ground and prone instead of as the officers DEARLY wanted that he be in the police car sitting up or even laying down in the back awaiting the medical attention that would be arriving ANY SECOND.

I only picked up the witness today at 11am central and yes he is giving some detailed information, and finally the prosecution starts to talk about what was the mechanism of death, on what COULD happen and using the video and is quite powerful but I don't even see where that places blame of the officers who were following their training and the I think his assertion that the combination of drugs in his system did not contribute. Awaiting the cross examination.

BTW I did a test which jurors are instructed NOT TO DO ONE THEIR OWN while a trial is underway, jurors are told of course not to listen to the news or read the papers and also not to try evidence on their own or conduct experiments. Anyway my phone has O2 sensor which gives your % O2 in your blood. I normally range between 95% and 98%. I checked and I was 98%, so l laid down on my floor for about 3 minutes prone with my hands behind my back while listening to the trial. Of course I had no problem breathing, I sleep that way mostly. After that three minutes it read 95% a normal variation. A minute later it read 98%. Granted this is just the being prone on the ground with your arms behind you back aspect, but I got no difference.

Anyone else have one of those on their phones try it.

So I'm not saying the totally disproves or refutes the prosecution witness. I await to see what the cross does with all the theoretical testimony, and statements based on the video's. And then of course their own witnesses.

And again where is the country Medical Examiner? Why wasn't he the first person they called to establish the autopsy cause of death which tells us a lot more than the third party expert witnesses.

 

And totally discounted the lethal does of drugs. And the position in which Floyd was being held was of his own doing. And he was complaining of a lack of O2 BEFORE he was ever on the ground.

 

no officer in any precinct has ever been trained to kneel on the neck of a subdued, handcuffed and face down laying suspect for over 9 minutes, 3 of which he was unconscious or dead.

No it doesn't. None of that is relevant. And Floyd complained of not being able to breath. Bystanders were screaming at the officer to get off his neck, because he couldn't breathe. That is depraved indifference homicide, and why Chauvin is going to prison for a few decades.

No, most people do not agree. Because most people have seen the actual video footage of the murder, and heard the testimony of the police chief and the training officer, who all pointed out this was an illegal technique by Chauvin.

No, that is not grounds for a mistrial. It is up to the jury to decide the credibility of any expert witnesses.

 

Yes justice is not sought for the victim but for the accused. The chants "No Justice No Peace" are fallacious as what they really want is "No Conviction No peace". That is entirely different. And no the oath is NOT unconstitutional. And yes you should NEVER be on a jury.

 

That is something like imaginations in your head.
We are discussing real facts here.

 

Their expert pulmonary witness was there to totally discount any effects from the lethal dose he had in his body. I think the defense will go after this on cross and certainly will present other witnesses to refute that.

 

The officers didn't as standard procedure as the EMT testified. And for the same reasons the paramedics decided to do a "load and go".

 

Those witness are not medical experts, even the EMT who is not even a paramedic, and we have him in the video's yelling and crying out.

 

Yes a KEY piece of evidence along with his FBI interview, you think it's going away or something. Curious why the prosecution has avoided it to this point instead. But we see this morning they have finally put a medical expert on the stand but the premises of some of his testimony have already been covered in the UOF officers and detailed minute by minute almost second by second examination of the videos and position of the knees.

 

No it is true as the testimony so far has shown, that the officers had used the proper on the ground procedure using their own body weight to immobilize and restrain and then that they were dealing with a suspect who is ODing and could become suddenly violent again. They couldn't just get up and let him lie there. They would have LOVED to have had him in the police SUV nice and comfortable awaiting the arriving any second ambulance to take him away. If was Floyd who caused himself to be on the ground under more forceful restraint.

 

Good, when they get to the amount of narcotics in his system the he ingested this will get interesting.

 

The doctor said he did not die from OD.

 

This gets a lot funnier. Here is a short list of some classes you take as an LEO;

Course Name Description Length
Arresting an Intoxicated Driver
Civilian Interaction
Dealing with Armed Citizens
Distracted Driving For Law Enforcement
Drunk Driving
DUI Testing and Safety
Evasive Driving
First Responder Traffic Incident Management
Hidden Compartments During Traffic Stops
High Risk Traffic Stops
Interior Car Lighting and Tactics

Here is what they look like when a strawman takes over to misrepresent the information.

Arresting an Intoxicated Driver while arguing with your mom on the phone.
Civilian Interaction for exactly 12 min 43 seconds while your phone goes off.
Dealing with Armed Citizens early on xmas morning.
Distracted Driving For Law Enforcement while your partners favorite song is on the good time radio.
Drunk Driving for beginners.
DUI Testing and Safety on east coast time.
Evasive Driving while having pastrami burps.
First Responder Traffic Incident Management while the lazy fire department takes it's time.
Hidden Compartments During Traffic Stops with angry white women.
High Risk Traffic Stops until it's time for lunch.
Interior Car Lighting and Tactics while getting bitten by mosquitos.

 

The amount of fent and meth in his system certainly did contribute heavily to this as per the official coroners' report.

 

There was multiple testimony by multiple expert witnesses including police trainers and Chauvin’s superiors that completely contradicts your claim. This has been amply demonstrated and does not change the facts even when you put it in all caps. I will not continue to respond to these fallacious claims that Chauvin followed standard training protocols. If you actually listened to ALL the testimony you know very well you are taking portions of testimony out of context and making this up.

Utter nonsense, this has no basis in fact, you are making crap up.

I listened to it and there was nothing remarkable about it, the usual grasping at straws by the defense attorney.

Thanks for all that but it’s not relevant to this case.

All false and/or misrepresentations of the pulmonologist’s testimony.

It is jury tampering because it violates the concept of a juror’s constitutionally protected right to freely determine whether the defendant is guilty or not.

Not if I have to take an unconstitutional oath which I would never agree to do. Otherwise there would be no reason for me not to serve on a jury.

 

No, it's documented on numerous videos and pointed out by the police chief and training officer.

Well, I am. You should join us.