"Science, Politics, And COVID: Will Truth Prevail?"

Your ideas on measurement are absolutely juvenile. There are multiple ways of measuring the COVID death rate. And, the failure of states and Trump's purposeful mismanagement of data do NOT cause this to be some sort of unknown.

As for Wuhan, that lab continues to be the best possible defense against SARS that the entire world has.

The number of significantly different SARS varieties in that region is large (in the thousands) and the possibility of FAR worse versions crossing to humans from the animal population in that region is significant. Understanding those pathways and developing methods of resistance is work that is absolutely critical.

We should be increasing funding there and helping in any other way we can.

 

Yes. Which means he could have been a 91. Definitely a red flag. I suppose if you were responsible for the life or death of a patient you would always assume the pulse ox was erring on the low side and the patient will be fine at 93. Nuts if you ask me.

 

No evidence to support that.

A thing we share.

When the two choice are basically the same and both suck, why not vote for someone that does not make you feel dirty all over. Plus we have gotten a few non-duopoly people elected at the local level, that is the way to start since people like you will just keep on voting for the duopoly no matter how much they suck

 

Or the whole thing is measurement error.
Not much better than I felt fine.

 

Anyone that did so would not be in healthcare for very long. Always err on the side of caution

 

Isn't it better to vote for the lesser of the two evils?
isn't voting 3rd party not making a decision?
Isn't not making a decision deciding to make the decision for you?

 

I have COPD. I couldn't get oxygen until I was under 90.

 

I prefer to take the pulse ox seriously. Early Covid cases had dangerously low blood oxygen levels and were showing up to the hospital without symptoms of low blood oxygen levels. We don’t base things like blood oxygen levels on feelings.

 

Well one would hope so. But our nation’s top epidemiologist didn’t err on the side of caution with Covid and few care about that. Probably easier to fire a nurse though....

Anyway, yeh, I agree with you 100%. Always err on the side of caution. You can’t mess around with respiratory problems in my line of work either. Assuming everything is fine leads to dead beasts in short order sometimes.

 

I now have this picture in my mind of the poster going to the doctor and telling him his oxygen level drops to 93 when he puts a mask on. I'm pretty sure what mine would say.

 

A little more scientific study.

Wearing of Cloth or Disposable Surgical Face Masks has no Effect on Vigorous Exercise Performance in Healthy Individuals (nih.gov)

 

I wish you would have kept the masks on your bats.

 

I just have a picture of a dude who did a little test of his oxygen levels wearing a mask. I don’t recall anything about going to a doctor. It’s a pretty simple thing to remove the mask and see if the reading increases.

The point you miss with the post of yours I first responded to is that we don’t go around saying things that may harm people. A pulse ox of 93 does not mean you necessarily need oxygen or that death is imminent. It means it’s time to determine why there is a low pulse ox reading. Telling people they are fine with a pulse ox of 93 is not wise because it may be an early symptom of serious disease or other physiological problem. I’m not concerned about the PF member who did this test with a mask. I’m concerned about third parties believing a pulse ox of 93-95 is of no concern.

 

The only bat I’ve touched in years I had a hell of a time even catching. I don’t think I could have masked it!

 

Lets see, you intentionally restrict your o2 intake and then assume a low SpO2 reading is in the upper band of the devices accuracy? WTF?

 

I think you are responding to the wrong poster.

 

Perhaps.. In any event, it's blatantly obvious that mask restricts air flow. While it may not pose a medical threat, it is annoying and makes exercise much more uncomfortable.

 

Poor baby.

 

The reason socialism has failed everywhere it's been tried is that socialists know so much that isn't so:

MILWAUKEE —

The Department of Health Services website shows 3,806 deaths in Wisconsin connected to COVID-19.

According to the state, 801 of those were in Milwaukee County.

As WISN 12 News has previously reported, Milwaukee County's Medical Examiner counts deaths differently.

According to the county dashboard, 739 people in Milwaukee County have died from COVID-19.

Dr. Brian Peterson spoke to WISN 12's Hillary Mintz Tuesday about the discrepancy.

He said just because someone dies with COVID-19, it doesn't mean they died of COVID-19.

Peterson said it was an important distinction that separated his totals from the state's.

Serb Hall General Manager Nicholas Alioto, 55, died last Monday after contracting the coronavirus.

He told WISN 12 News he was roughed up Nov. 14 at a rally in support of President Donald Trump at Serb Hall after the health department told him it violated rules about wearing face masks and social distancing.

Two weeks after his interview, he died.

The Medical Examiner's report said he tested positive for COVID-19.

Peterson determined his death was caused by heart disease and not the virus.

"Just because they have a true positive test, doesn't mean they have the disease and just because they have the disease, doesn't mean they die of it," he said. "I look for the signs of illness specific to this disease -- cough, shortness of breath and fever."

https://www.wisn.com/article/covid-...edical-examiner-explains-difference/34909031#

If you can find another disease for which the official metric was the number of people who died after testing positive for a disease as opposed to dying of a symptom of a disease, please share it with us.

Trump had nothing to do with determining COVID metrics. In fact, he had Fauci and Birx on TV regularly during prime time ,,, transparency that is the polar opposite of the Biden News Blackout at the border. Biden is typical of socialists who know so much that isn't so that they have to work overtime covering up the facts and censoring the views of normal people.

 

Only idiots make themselves uncomfortable for no reason.

 

Viruses are not exclusively found in water droplets, nor are they forever bound to a water droplet.

 

Cool. Already knew that but good to know.

 

Cool. So now you understand why masks are not very effective protection against viruses.

 

Masks are very effective against FREEDOM !!

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