"Science, Politics, And COVID: Will Truth Prevail?"

Covid travels via water particles. Mask fibers are smaller than water particles. So the water particles with the virus can’t escape.

And the second half is just nonsense. I have exercised wearing my mask before. Never had a problem with it. There’s no reduced O2 flow with or without masks on.

 

It is simply astounding how people refuse to think!
1. The virus does not ONLY travel on water particles
2. What happens when the virus laden water particle lands on your cloth bandana and then dries?

Masks were NEVER more than a "better than nothing" measure - barely useful when covid was rampant. As soon as people started recovering and getting vaccinated the usefulness of masks disappeared.

 

I agree. It is astounding.
1. And....? What is your point?
2. What happens when the virus dies? It can't stay alive outside of a host for long.

Masks have saved lives, simple as that. They were the first line that made sure lots of people weren't sick and the disease wasn't spread out. Sure, some of the virus will get out. But not as many, and that was the point. Save as many lives as possible by implementing the simplest of safety measures.

 

I did my own experiment with N95 mask and my oximeter.

After 30 minutes with the mask on my oxygen levels dropped 3%.

I cannot measure hypercapnia, but as oxygen drops, carbon dioxide levels rise.

There IS reduced oxygen with masks on, but it varies with type of mask and the individual.

 

Wow. I did one where I exercised for over 30 minutes wearing a mask, same distance for weekends on end. And I was just fine.

 

You were just fine? How scientific. Of course O2 flow is decreased with a mask on!

 

that cannot be proven or disproven. But, if it makes you feel better to think that, then so be it

 

Well I mean I am a positivist but sure if you want to falsify my claim to right ahead.

 

Did you use an oximeter during that period?

 

I biked up a hill with the mask on and off, though to answer your question no. There were no disercnble differences tho.

 

Some posters in this forum don't think beyond their phony certificates


With Covid19, every NEGATIVE has a POSITIVE, for example;

NEGATIVE; "According to XYZ Study, long term fatalities related to the Lockdowns/Stay-home Orders could surpass 1 Million''

POSITIVE; Well, according to ABC Study, and TRUMP......''If we did nothing, 2.2 million would have died''. IN ADDITION, if current 574,989 Covid19 Deaths = 1,056,969 Hospitalizations, then 2.2 Million Covid19 Deaths = 4 Million Hospitalizations.

https://carlsonschool.umn.edu/mili-misrc-covid19-tracking-project
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Question; Mr./Ms. NEGATIVE, do you think our health care system could handle an extra 4 million hospitalizations, an extra 1 million in ICU's over one year?




Then, shut the foook up!

 

Yeah, you're one of those who claim to be driven by science, but you won't do the test with an oximeter. Are you in Whitmer's family?

 

Yeah be careful a level of 93 is awful for you.

 

those are your feelings. Also, it appears that you like being subservient to an overbearing Democrat led govt so your stance makes sense.

In order for your assertion to be proven, then a study would need to have been done of masking up, vs not masking up. No such study was conducted.

 

Personal insult duly noted.

And no we don’t because that’s not how science works.

 

insult.............sure if you say so. It was an observation

science has theories which is all that your theory of the mask is. In order to prove a theory, then studies must be conducted both with and without mask. None were done

spare me your "science" statement

Again, your posting history shows that you like govt control. For some folks, personal responsibility and accepting the consequences of personal responsibility is overwhelming

Fortunately, our founding fathers did not fear the ramifications of liberty.

 

Saying “I like big government” when you think people who like big government are worse than wrong is an insult.

And you don’t prove things in science. You reject. We know masks work because there hasn’t been anything around that falsify that claim. You’re asking for something scientists don’t do.

 

A pulse ox (SpO2) below 95 percent is considered low. Anything in the 93 range would raise red flags for healthcare professionals.

 

You're right, dude, they never wore masks.

 

A reading indicates what percentage of your blood is saturated, known as the SpO2 level. This test has a 2 percent error window. That means the reading may be as much as 2 percent higher or lower than your actual blood oxygen level.

 

Not exactly true.
Bush prepared after SARS.
Obama had higher priorities after Swine Flu that infected 60M, like manufacturing solar cells, getting the federal government into the automobile and health insurance industries.

Who told you that doctors wear surgical masks capable of filtering bacteria to keep themselves safe from viruses as opposed to keeping bacteria out of their patients' wounds?

You may be the only person who knows the death count since that metric is not being measured or recorded. We know how many people had a positive COVID test around the time of their death --- but a positive may or may not indicate a real case. Given the wildly inaccurate PCR tests, we don't even know how many cases there are or have been in the US.

We know that COVID has destroyed lives. I've lost more acquaintances and friends to stage 4 cancer due to lock downs than in my entire life. The lives of children who have little chance of contracting the disease and virtually no chance of dying from it have been destroyed. Small businesses have been decimated, spiking opioid abuse and other personal disasters.

The most notable idiot was the NIH dwarf who initiated US funding of Wuhan's gain of function project that was the source of the pandemic in 2014.

COVID spread from China to Italy to the world. Much of the first mass spread was caused by the International Women's Day super spreader in Madrid. I know Xi would be happy with all Americans who blame others for the virus they spread,Americans like Mitt Zedong who, through Bain Capital, is beholden to the ChiComs and Chris Murphy who's campaign also benefited from laundered Yuan, and Biden who we all know is a puppet of the Chinese Communist Party..

Again, you have no idea how many people we lost to the pandemic since there is no metric being used to measure that statistic.

 

Why do you read this junk?

 

And I over you.

I am not a DEm voter either but I sure as heck did not vote for the orange clown either time.

I'll never understand voting for people that cannot be elected. And you claimed you had, "greater insight and superior intelligence" than the previous poster, I do have to wonder.

 

Obama put out bids for emergency mask and other PPE production and assembled a team of experts to guide preparedness.

Trump eliminated ALL of that, telling PPE manufacturers to go away and followed it up by ... well, I'm sure you are aware of the massive assault on medical science, the rejection of an international approach to an international problem, the white supremacist hate he poured on Asians, the fake solutios and happy talk that he followed up with.

Today, we are not only LESS prepared, we have cultured an opposition to every kind of preparedness we could possibly have, starting with the denigration of science in general, ensuring rejection of rational decision making.

The walls against preparedness and sound response will be hugely difficult to address.

We ARE worse off.