Here is a real gun control proposal that doesn't ban any guns (that aren't already)

Of course it is - that's why the right to keep and bear arms is the most heavily protected right mentioned in the Bill of Rights.

 

So are most other tools. Should people carrying (or look like they're carring) knives and hammers lose their 4th Amendment rights as well? This would allow the police to ID check everyone at construction sites, landscaping jobs, hardware stores... you could catch all sorts of ppl!

 

To keep people honest and show they aren't hiding anything.

It will deter the legal owner who want's to make a quick buck off of criminals from selling it.

It will get law enforcement activated quicker

That was implied lol, if you aren't in physical possession lock it up.

 

Indeed.
FAR more people are murderd each year with hammers, ball bats and other blunt objects than with 'assault weapons' in mass shootings.

 

We're presumed innocent in America. 99.999999% of gun owners are honest already. We have a right NOT to have to prove ourselves innocent constantly.

Most states already have restrictions on person-to-person sales. Why fix something that isn't broken. Someone intent on committing a crime isn't going to fill out paperwork and won't register crap.

I had a guitar stolen from the back of my pickup truck 10 years ago while I was in a restaurant. The police didn't even want to file a report, lol, much less go looking for it.

No thanks. Especially in the home. When seconds count, opening a safe can mean you die. What right do you have to dictate what I do inside my home?

 

This would only impact law abiding citizens, the very people for which guns are not a problem.

Though I guess the other side is it would turn people like me in to criminals as there is no ****ing way I am telling the Govt what weapons I own

 

OK, sea lawyer.

 

That is true but it doesn't rise to the point of unconstitutionality.

 

Facts not your thing?

 

I'll let you analyze what I said for yourself.

 

Unnecessary and ineffective restrictions on the exercise of your rights are the very definition of infringements.

 

Obviously, I did.

 

He would certainly raise the value of used guns. I don't know many people interested in a single shot pistol.

 

Congress has made gun registration illegal 4 times. As California proves, registration leads to confiscation.

 

I do not support it, cops do not need to know you have a gun for a simple traffic stop

write the ticket and be on their way, easy peasy

 

I didn't say registration is necessary. I said it is constitutional.

 

Confiscation is unconstitutional. Registration is not. We have registration right now as I have explained earlier.

 

No thank you

 

What is it about registration leads to confiscation you don’t understand?

 

In between registration and confiscation will come taxation, too.

 

If a restriction laid on a the exercise of a right is unnecessary, it creates an infringement on said right.
The state cannot restrict rights willy-nilly - it must be able to demonstrate a necessity for a given restriction.

 

It's amazing that the people who keep proposing to control guns seem to have so little interest in controlling the criminals- the ones who pull the triggers.
For example in California, recent changes in law raised the threshold between petty theft and grand larceny to a value of $950.
Petty theft reports become records, not investigations. If goods reported as petty thefts are found in other investigations, they are dealt with.
A conviction of petty theft gets no jail time- just a fine, around $500.

Thus you can steal a gun every week in California, and the law will be no more concerned than if you stole a television set. The average black market value perhaps $500-600. If you get caught once a year, you lose a week's income, but pay no income tax anyway....

And that puts new stolen weapons in the hands of criminals everyday. Every theft of a gun should be a felony, it should be actively investigated, and should have high penalties.
Instead, we are told to lay BS on law-abiding citizens, whose guns are never used criminally. How smart is that?

 

I don't agree that registration leads to confiscation. We have had registration since 1967 with the introduction of the FFL. The only illegal gun confiscation by government occurred in Louisiana after the hurricane Katrina. That is a long way from national confiscation.

 

An easy thing for the state to do. You've been bombarded with the details of the reason for decades. We all agree that federal government should stay out of things like gun registration. But the reality is that federal government should be stay out of most of what it does.

 

When did California confiscate firearms illegally?