Why is the media still lying about Ivermectin?

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    This is just plain pathetic.

    You are rejecting science in favor of internet BS that is NOT backed by science.

    Being a toady to internet conspiracy theories is not going to make you better informed.
     
  2. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    So the testimony of a doctor who has experience isn't science?
    https://medicalupdateonline.com/202...n't begin shortly, try restarting your device

    What do you consider her testimony to be?

    Here's some stuff you should read.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-theorists-ever-right.586948/#post-1072565532
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...at-the-lies-furiously.583345/#post-1072353798
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I miss the times before this forum had devolved into Pravda 2.0.
     
  4. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    Corrupted Big Pharma/Mainstream Media Are Dismissing Ivermectin - Dr. Pierre Kory and Bret Weinstein
    https://www.brighteon.com/a749a427-9ec5-4a88-ad28-62d52b93a98b

    Wake Up! Ivermectin Cures Acute and Long-Haul COVID!! - Dr. Pierre Kory
    https://www.brighteon.com/a07acb8e-6032-4208-8477-ed77ca925fc0

    Merck is Suppressing Ivermectin’s Efficacy at Curing COVID - Dr. Pierre Kory
    https://www.brighteon.com/2043dba8-49fd-4abc-b327-997bb2118eea

    Ivermectin Would End COVID-19 Instantly! - Dr. Pierre Kory and Bret Weinstein
    https://www.brighteon.com/3ae8eced-a491-4b21-9938-eaa7927edf77
     
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2021
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Pretty simple. Left wing media is in the business of protecting and defending government. Government is in the business of power and control. Media helps government implement that power and control.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Isn't Pravda state funded like RT and PBS?
    Do you think this forum is state funded?
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    The Left only defends governments it controls.
     
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    Sorry, but I have to ask. How exactly is that different form the 'right'?
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Exactly this different:
     
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    Bridget Well-Known Member

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    Why are they lying? Simple. Because they want everyone to follow facist Joe's instructions to help him get a win, instead seeing people recover from covid.
     
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    And it is all about the transfer of wealth from the productive working class to the filthy rich.

    “Activists said the wealth generation highlighted the stark inequality that has resulted from the pandemic. The nine new billionaires are worth a combined $19.3 billion, enough to fully vaccinate some 780 million people in low-income countries, campaigners said.

    "These billionaires are the human face of the huge profits many pharmaceutical corporations are making from the monopoly they hold on these vaccines," Anne Marriott, Oxfam's health policy manager, said in a statement. "These vaccines were funded by public money and should be first and foremost a global public good, not a private profit opportunity," she added.”
    CNN, Covid vaccine profits mint 9 new pharma billionaires, By Hanna Ziady, CNN Business, May 21, 2021. (emphasis mine)
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/21/business/covid-vaccine-billionaires/index.html
     
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    LOL. Good one.
     
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    Trumper logic.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The forth estate.
     
  16. WillReadmore

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    I'm not going to listen to some 5 part vid.

    As far as I can tell from the text, this didn't involve the elements of a medical science test. I see no mention of controls, of methods of addressing how candidates are selected for participation, or any other test design. Plus, I don't see a paper that has been reviewed and published by a credible medical journal.

    What I DO see is justification for testing Ivermectin. And that is what CDC is doing. One catch is that CDC reports on the testing are not positive.
    I've seen that. And, it doesn't substitute for testing ivermectin.
     
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    Pretty lame. The viewers are looking at the info and your refusing to look at it isn't going to sway them.

    If you're going to be against the alternative version, you should know what it is. Here's some stuff you can start checking out.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ure-such-events.569790/page-8#post-1072925106
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ure-such-events.569790/page-8#post-1072925636

    Watch the five part vid too.
     
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    I've READ the Israel study.

    I pointed out several ways in which it has serious weakness that have been noted by those who review such things. Do we need to go over that again???

    I'm absolutely NOT going to watch a video. Videos have ZERO credibility. Nobody reviews videos and there is NO possibility of checking whether they are representing their sources.

    If you think there is science, then show me the science.

    I absolutely WILL read papers that have any kind of claim to being science. And, there are plenty of well respected sources of medical science.

    What YOU are doing is accepting pretty much anything you hear without question as long as it agrees with your previous opinion. AND you do so without noting what science has to say about your various sources.
     
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    Those videos are of doctors talking about the results they had with ivermectin. They pretty much encapsulate the pro-ivermectin argument. If you watch the videos, you might change sides.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Doctors that disagree with our corrupt ruling political class will all be dismissed as quacks.
     
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    Yes.

    Talking is not science. Talking is talking.

    Again, show me the science. Don't show me people telling stories.

    And, NOBODY should be believing internet videos. NOBODY.

    Let's remember that it was CDC that found ivermectin when they searched their enormous database of medications that have gone through testing. Their objective was to find something proven safe, and with a prayer of addressing COVID - in its symptoms, in lowering how infectious it is, or even in the possibility of finding a treatment. CDC applied what the world knows about infectious disease, viruses in particular and SARS specifically in this search - it was not random.

    That's how hydroxychloroquine was found, too.

    THEN the next step is to do testing to see if the substance that was found is also actually helpful.

    So far, hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin have not succeeded in that testing.

    I really hope you know all this, as you would if you've done any level of investigation on your videos.
     
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    If the ones that understand what's happening speak out, they'll be fired from the hospitals. If they could all work together, they could go private but share expensive equipment or something. I would think that a doctor would always survive.

    I think getting fired from hospitals is their only worry. Could their licenses to practice medicine be taken away?
     
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    Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19


    https://osf.io/wx3zn/
     
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    The CDC and FDA are corrupt. The government can have any agency do bogus studies.

    Here's an example of a bogus study done by the government to control the damage done by a crisis.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/are-conspiracy-theorists-ever-right.586948/

    People were finding out about depleted uranium so the RAND corporation did a bogus study that said there was nothing to worry about.
     
  25. WillReadmore

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    More hypothetical nonsense to support conspiracy theories.

    What makes you think it would even be POSSIBLE to have a world wide conspiracy of the type you propose?

    Please explain how such a conspiracy could possibly take place.

    That IS a fundamental requirement for the nonsense you are selling, so that IS the best place to start.
     

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