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Texas doctor says he violated nation's most restrictive antiabortion law to challenge it

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  1. Bob Newhart

    Bob Newhart Well-Known Member

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    I'd prefer to have evidence the baby did indeed have a heartbeat when he aborted it. I'd prefer to have evidence that the mother's life was not in danger.

    This are things I'm going to have to prove in the lawsuit. Right now he can recant and I'm not sure if the lawsuit would make it to a deposition. It might, depending on the judges. The doctor certainly didn't make it easy for people to prove that he broke the law.

    This is theatrics not courage.
     
    Bob Newhart, Sep 19, 2021
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  2. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I've read some of it, and never saw what you claim...

    All I'm saying is the claim cannot just be - "Hey, I read some doctor said he did something"... Somebody's gotta put a little legwork in here to file the claim.....
     
    Egoboy, Sep 19, 2021
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  3. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    ****in awesome then... a lesson for everybody...

    It's neither theatrics, or courage... it's simply doing his job and providing a legally allowed service...
     
    Egoboy, Sep 19, 2021
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  4. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why? What does Texas have to do with filing these suits?

    A= Nothing...
     
    Egoboy, Sep 19, 2021
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    THIS is how you try and enact change and stand up for what you believe in. MAD respect for this guy.
     
    Kal'Stang, Sep 19, 2021
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    What don't you like about it? I know what I don't like about abortion and can clearly and concisely state it, I do repeatedly here. How about you are you one of the not very view who do not like abortion or one of the very few that do whom you are talking about?
     
    Bluesguy, Sep 19, 2021
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  7. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm one of the not very (few) who do not like abortion. But I'll defend the right to choose that option all day long...
     
    Egoboy, Sep 20, 2021
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    People should have the right to murder in peace for God's sakes!
     
    ToughTalk, Sep 20, 2021
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  9. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Breaking poor and illegitimate laws is the duty of citizens. Civil Disobedience is our duty. That we have largely failed miserably to do so partly explains the mess we're in right now.
     
    Eleuthera, Sep 20, 2021
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    How are you going to prove any of that without breaching HIPPA?

    Besides THIS a is what a foetus at a six week gestation really looks like

    upload_2021-9-20_22-58-10.jpeg

    https://stillbirthday.wordpress.com/2011/07/25/photo-6-week-gestation-baby/
    upload_2021-9-20_23-1-11.jpeg

    The link has a real one this one is plastic

    Now if you can manage to retrieve something this small out of the blood clot it came out with……..
     
    Bowerbird, Sep 20, 2021
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    That's one way it's done with any controversial law.
     
    joesnagg, Sep 20, 2021
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  12. ToughTalk

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    Is a person who is 6 feet tall more alive than someone who is under 4 feet tall?

    I'm gonna guess you'd say yes.
     
    ToughTalk, Sep 20, 2021
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    Does someone under 4 feet tall have more rights than someone 6 feet tall?
     
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    Good for the Doctor.

    Just to clarify,

    He isn't a criminal until he gets convicted.
    When the law is overturned, he is not a criminal.

    Simple ?
     
    fullmetaljack, Sep 20, 2021
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    Apparently they are seen as lesser human. So they would have less rights.
     
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  18. Bowerbird

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    Really? By whom?

    I tell you what if you can get a foetus to write up a petition all on op it’s own I will organise it to get some rights
     
    Bowerbird, Sep 20, 2021
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    No matter the law, the doctor did the right thing.

    Breaking bad law is the right thing to do.
     
    Eleuthera, Sep 20, 2021
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  20. ToughTalk

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    So the ability to write up a petition is the definition of life now?

    Interesting.
     
    ToughTalk, Sep 20, 2021
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  21. Bowerbird

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    Early days of research and the are Pluripotent stem cells - capable of developing into any and all organs within the body. The fact that it spontaneously developed eye cups suggests it may
     
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    Does someone under 4 feet tall have more rights than someone 6 feet tall?


    Are you referring to the 6 footer or the under 4 footer ?

    I asked YOU, YOUR opinion : Does someone under 4 feet tall have more rights than someone 6 feet tall?

    Why would you see either as "lesser humans" ????
     
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    Tell me - does someone who is brain dead considered to have the “right” to end their life or is that left to the relatives to decide? Does a two year old have the right to vote in an election? Dies a three year old have the right to free speech in the middle of a crowded theatre? Does a four year old have second amendment “rights”?
     
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    Doesn't that support the idea that the way this law has been written is impractical? With any normal criminal offence, if someone made a direct public statement claiming they committed a serious crime, the police could (and would generally be expected to) investigate. They have the powers and resources to access that information and establish whether a crime has been committed. A private citizen doesn't have those powers of resources and so typically wouldn't be able to gather sufficient evidence to bring the required civil suit, even with a full and entirely viable confession.

    The law has been created in such a unconventional and convoluted manner (to try to circumvent the constitutional and political issues) that it has created something pretty much unworkable.
     
    HonestJoe, Sep 20, 2021
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  25. ToughTalk

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    Will said brain dead person make a full recovery in oh...say 9 months or less? Do you have the right to kill someone who can't vote or does not have the right to own or handle a gun?

    Interesting...
     
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