Texas doctor says he violated nation's most restrictive antiabortion law to challenge it

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  1. Mircea

    Mircea Well-Known Member

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    Because it's propaganda.

    The Texas law cannot be enforced by government, including law enforcement.

    It provides only for a private right of action by residents of the State of Texas, and even then, the residents can only file suit against the medical professional that performed the abortion.....meaning the doctor has to perform the abortion first and then the Texas private citizen resident has to somehow -- without violating HIPPA -- discover that the doctor performed the abortion.
     
  2. Reality

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    He has to be sued before he has standing to challenge the law. His open admission is good enough evidence to make a good faith claim.
     
  3. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I wouldnt expect a Male conservative to understand the situation fully..

    Are you seriously comparing an abortion to heart and brain surgery on living persons??

    OK... you do you...
     
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  4. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, in this case, the doctor told everybody he first performed an illegal abortion on 9/6... So how hard can it be for somebody to file a suit based on that admission?? Or does the private citizen need more here??

    It's OK... nobody really knows how this idiocy was designed to work/not work....
     
  5. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    OK... let the games begin... that's what he wants here...
     
  6. Reality

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    Yeah and people know its what he wants, he's actually saying it out right.
    So more than likely if someone wants to **** with him they'll do.... nothing.
     
  7. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Great... Perhaps all the doctors in Texas should get with that program.... There's much less risk than anybody thinks...
     
  8. Reality

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    I'm still surprised someone from his own "side" of the issue hasn't taken the initiative and sued him themselves then made a whole bunch of strawman arguments his counsel could whip around.
     
  9. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's a fantastic idea.... If they win any judgement (which they won't), they could refund it all to the doctor or his clinic...

    THAT'S thinking outside the box......

    It might be a race to the courthouse this week...

    "Strawman arguments" of course being "No US laws were broken here"

    EDIT - With my forum reputation, I need to point out the above is NOT sarcasm... it's a legit good idea...
     
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  10. Kal'Stang

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    If someone believes in something so much that they are willing to go to prison, possibly for the rest of their life, in order to stand up for that conviction against the government then I have mad respect for them. It doesn't matter to me whether I agree with their conviction or not. That they're willing to stand up for it that much is what deserves respect. Its far braver than the BLM/Antifa or 1/6 riots that happened. I feel nothing but disgust for those things.
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    I'm talking about medical procedures I support and am for an one you support and are for, now can you give me a straight answer this time?

    Tough and sad why, if it is just a bunch of cells no different from snot, if it is not a human being, not a person what's tough and sad what about the abortion makes it so and don't you like?

    And spare me the "male conservatives" can't discuss abortion nonsense. It is YOU who does seem able to discuss it and understand what IS an abortion.
     
  12. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Appreciate that sentiment, but who is remotely doing that??

    Also, you believe BLM wasn't "standing up for something" last year??

    I disagree, even if some of the marches got out of control...
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Asked and answered multiple times... moving on... suggest you do same...

    You are free to discuss abortion, just as I'm free to discontinue discussing it with the unempathetic...
     
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    Won’t work in court because it would be seen as entrapment
     
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    How is the TX law "blatantly unconstitutional" as it has been denied review so far? What basis for your conclusion do you have other than its what MSNBC told you to think?
     
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    So how do you “save” those lives if the woman cannot afford to feed the child?
     
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    I'm confused, what empathy must be considered here?
     
  18. Bowerbird

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    Slavery is forced gestation
     
  19. Bowerbird

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    Just made me smile in a thread that is sad because nearly every single one of those wanting to deny woman a choice, whilst simultaneously suggesting that “it was her fault she got pregnant in the first place” are male
     
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    Because it's someone. Brought into this world and then snuffed out because it's mom decided it was inconvenient it's not allowed the ability to grow.
     
  21. Bluesguy

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    If you want to address what I posted then address what I posted instead of your attempt to divert.
     
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    No you have dodged and yes were are discussing abortion. Why can't you give a straight answer as I said we might find some common ground. You aren't just moving on you're running.
    But that is so typical of those who object to saying they support "choice" but are not for abortions. As I said I can clearly and concisely tell you why I am anti-abortion and pro-life, I have done so. I asked you to do the same, explain your opinion as you stated it and now you want to run away. Why?
     
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    Only entrapment if the government is involved.
     
  24. Bluesguy

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    Yet those who favor abortion and when it is noted they do they go OH NO I don't support abortion and then they have to engage in the genteelism's and euphemisms. And when asked OK what is it you have against abortions, the dodging and weaving and then "well I'm not going to talk to you anymore". I've seen it for decades.
     
  25. Egoboy

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    Your posts are 24x7 diversion, but I do enjoy the irony in that one...
     

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