Another day, another mass school shooting

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  1. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You make very positive statements about something which you know nothing about.

    So tell me about my situation. Where I am located? How far I am from law enforcement? How accessible are my guns? How difficult would it be for an intruder to get access to them? How difficult would it be for an intruder to find me and my wife before I have access to the guns?

    You have ZERO knowledge.
     
  2. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    I know you don't have it within arms reach at all times.
     
  3. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again, talking with zero knowledge.
     
  4. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    I asked if you did, and you did not give an affirmative answer, so you don't.
     
  5. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did not give you an answer at all. You are speaking with zero knowledge.
     
  6. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    I am speaking with the knowledge I have.
     
  7. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Zero.
     
  8. Cybred

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    Which tells me you don't.
     
  9. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know zip about my situation.
     
  10. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    And you still don't.
     
  11. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know precisely how far I am from a gun at this minute. You do not have a clue. You don't know what kind of gun it is. Whether it is loaded. How long it takes to load it.

    The amount you do not know would fill volumes. The amount you do know is zero.
     
  12. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Nope, I know you don't.
     
  13. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know I don't what?
     
  14. Professor Peabody

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    Will they solve what to do with all the toxic materials in the batteries?

    BLM and ANTIFA are much bigger problems.
     
  15. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More of your BS. There is no such thing as a gun epidemic. There is no such thing as a white supremacist terrorism epidemic.
     
  16. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    That has been more or less the average since 2014.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2021/may/27/us-mass-shootings-database

    I think they don't "hype" the gun epidemic enough. It's not the media that produces mass shootings. It's guns! There should be national coverage every single day because it's happening every single day. Media should list mass shootings that occurred during the week like they used to do with servicemen who were killed in action. But the press stops emphasizing coverage until children are killed or there is a massive amount of dead. Insistence that there is a gun epidemic in this country should be highlighted every day. It's the only way to stop gun lobbyists who put profits before human life.
     
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    So looks like you finally admit that killing IS the only real function of guns.
     
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    And, of course, no debate makes sense to you unless it's about you.
     
  19. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have a reading comprehension problem.
    Please explain how fnw shifting to collecting stamps will save a single life.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Gun manufacturers don't know and cannot know that guns kill people?

    You could not have said anything more absurd. Car manufacturers don't KNOW if a poorly designed seat belt is going to kill somebody. But they are held liable because they SHOULD know. Same for gun manufacturers.

    "Too stupid to prosecute" only works for Trump. And only when he is judged by a partisan cultist Republican Senate.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You have made my point!

    Yes. You bring a gun to a gun to a gunfight because their purpose is to KILL as many people as possible. Much more difficult to do with rocks.

    I am fascinated by how you keep making my points over and over without even noticing....
     
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    It is not a poorly designed gun that kills people. It is a poorly designed person that gets killed in commission of a crime or a poorly designed criminal that kills someone. When a seat belt fails, they do not get rid of the whole car. They fix the problem with the seat belt.
     
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    I know of no responsible gun owners whose purpose is to kill as many people as possible. It is just the opposite.
    Your arguments are making less and less sense.
     
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    Interesting data. However, you claim that you do your own research but it is clear that you haven't in the case of media coverage. There are plenty of research on the media's role in mass shootings. I suggest you read some of that.
    There are some links to get you started in this article:
    https://www.center4research.org/copy-cats-kill/

    Why do you think that mass shootings have grown from a few per year in 2000 to what they are now while at the same time, gun violence overall is down (at least until the last two years)? I suggest that culture is a much more important factor than gun ownership and the largest influencer of culture is the media (including, and maybe more importantly, social media).
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    Media coverage is not the topic of this thread. Get back to me when there is a thread about media coverage and I might (maybe) have something to comment about that topic.

    You make a claim, and you provide a chart. However, your chart doesn't address your claim. So I have no idea what you're talking about.

    And of course our gun culture has plenty to do with mass shootings.
     
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