Judge rules Trump's efforts to overturn election likely criminal

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

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    Until I see, indictments, OR it offered in a court of law in a civil suit, upheld by a judge, and survives cross examination, favorable jury verdict, you do not have proof of squat.

    All you have is an unsettled argument, that's it.

    "Real" doesn't equal 'proof'.
     
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  2. balancing act

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    So it wouldn't bother you if Rudy Giuliani had "manipulated" the data on the hard drive? I guess you missed the part of the examination where they determined that the hard drive data had been manipulated.
    You come out with all of these statements, but don't offer any proof of what you are stating.
    Ok, let's play that game: I think Rudy Giuliani "acquired" a laptop from Hunter Biden, had the data manipulated by mixing real emails with fake ones, and put it out there to cause Joe Biden problems politically. There is something very fishy about the whole thing, but I guess you trust Rudy Giuliani, because you like what he is saying, completely disregarding that he is a proven liar. In court, no less.
    You are going to believe what you want to believe. And you will bend and twist the facts until they fit the narrative that makes you feel justified.
    I'm not saying Hunter Biden is some saint, or not a drug addict, or a great person, because he's not. I'm not even saying that Hunter didn't get advantages because of who his father is. I submit that most presidents, if not all, have family members who get privileges because of their family relationship with the president.
    I just find it odd that you are so triggered when it comes to Biden, but apparently don't have any problem with Trump or any other president when that happens.
    Or maybe it's just Democrats?
    When you find an attitude that applies to all who commit the "outrage", let me know.
    I'm not picking on you, as we all have our faults. I have caught myself making the same mistake.
    Peace, brother!
     
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    I would write
    while(true){...}

    the intent is much clearer


    but anyway
     
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    It's breathtaking how an otherwise intelligent person can entertain conspiracy theories like mass voter fraud extending across (at least) 5 states.
     
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    Arrogance combined with incompetence and stupidity yields a dangerous individual. Fortunately these types rarely make it into our highest offices. It's only the rare offspring of rich families that have the potential. We should be on the lookout for such persons attempting to gain power.
     
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    As someone who leans slightly (or more in some cases) right, I cannot like this post enough. Well said!
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    The emails are real, the financial documents are real, the checks are real, The Big Guy is real. If you have something which proves they are fake then post it.
     
  8. Andrew Jackson

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    PROVE That God Exists!
     
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    Corroborated and documented, no denials. What do you have to refute it?
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    Doesn't have to be for our discussions here or for any reasonable conclusions concerning it.
     
  11. Andrew Jackson

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    :roflol:
    There is NOTHIHG to "Refute"...:bored:
    I read at a Deep-Web Chatroom that Bigfoot Exists...
    What do you have to refute it?
    ^See how that works?
     
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    Are you kidding me? You know that's impossible, so what is your intention?
    Just forget it, you don't really have any intention on debate, you just want to spew a narrative you're already convinced about and will spew bs when you don't know what else to say.
     
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    They are evidence. The emails are slightly vague, and don’t say, yeah, I gotta give 10% to my dad Joe Biden, so it’s not proof, but it is evidence.
     
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    Proof is the evidence used to either support or ascertain that something happened or that a person's statement is true. Proof is a requirement in any criminal trial. Criminal statutes have several elements, each of which must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

    proof | Wex | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute
    https://www.law.cornell.edu › W

    The emails are proof of the asserted activities they are backed by forensic confirmations, documents and witness corroboration.
     
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    No it is jot impossible, the Russian dossier was proven to be fake. Support your assertion they are not real but somehow fake and let's DEBATE it.
    The emails are real, the financial documents are real, the checks are real, The Big Guy is real. If you have something which proves they are fake then post it.
     
  16. Patricio Da Silva

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    Cornell did not assert your email was 'evidence', you did.
     
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    Present your big foot as evidence as we have the emails and documents and cancelled checks and witness corroborations we have with the Biden family influence peddling. What is your evidence they are fake?
     
  18. Patricio Da Silva

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    Let's see what you got.
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    Refute the evidence of the Biden family scandal.
     
  20. Patricio Da Silva

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    Let's see it.
     
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    What is YOUR "Evidence" that:
    1) They are "Real"...
    2) That they PROVE what they are claiming to prove?
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ence-of-mass-fraud-in-maricopa-county.598679/

    “There is no evidence, there are no facts that would lead anyone to believe that the election results will change,” Brnovich said days after the 2020 election was called for Biden.

    Let's see it survive cross examination in a court of law.

    then, you might have something.

    All I'm seeing from your side is an echo chamber.
     
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    Given the fact that evry time I see a claim made by the right, the vast majority of the time it is debunked, and the claims fall apart in court.

    I'd say, given the above, the odds are your so called evidence is bunk.
     
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    I do

    That was easy.
     
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    More imaginary crimes?
     

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