Abortion is a Homicide

Cat calls, ad hom, and logical fallacy, and ignoring or not responding to posts that refute your claims, do not debunk much.

The zygote will produce cells (two to be exact) and the offspring of these cells will create more cells. The billions of created cells will form the organs and structures of the human body.

The initial zygote is not a human body.

A human must have functioning organs (heart and brain) and structures (veins and arteries) in order to be considered "alive"/living.

Without these organs and structures, no living human exists.

The zygote is not a living human.

You have failed to refute any of the above commentary.

 

Well lying and not providing specifics doesn't redeem you from your earlier nonsense.




No need to continue eh?

 

Specifics were provided. Seems you are ignoring what you can not refute again.

You have failed to refute any of the above commentary and you have never refuted it in the past .. so your claims that you have debunked anything are false.

 

Nope, no specifics here.

"Originally Posted by Giftedone
Cat calls, ad hom, and logical fallacy, and ignoring or not responding to posts that refute your claims, do not debunk much."

Calling a normal growth process "cloning" is just playing a semantics game. You are convincing nobody!

 

The zygote does not "grow" it reproduces. The result of this reproduction is two identical clones of the parent.

Those are the scientific facts .. and a scientific description of mitosis.

It is you that is playing the semantics game by pretending that the clones do not exist.

Reproduction of the zygote is not "growth" of the zygote. Cell reproduction (mitosis) is growth of a human once a human exists, or growth of the primordial organism into a human.

It is you who is confusing terms and once again you have been debunked.

The process of the creation of the human body .. is given below and you have yet to respond.

 

No, it is clearly you who is confused. A zygote grows. The method by which he/she grows is irrelevant to the discussion of the fact that a zygote organism grows.

 

You have no support for this claim.

 

You have no support for this claim. Nor did you answer any other parts of the post .. nor does the term you want to give to mitosis negate the fact that the offspring of the zygote are clones of the zygote and the implications of this to the personhood of each.

 

There are no implications as there is still only one organism. You ignore this critical fact!

 

If the zygote is an "organism", then a clone of the zygote is also an organism.

 

Abortion is homicide. So is capital punishment, euthanasia, and, at times, self-defense.

They are also social necessities.

Now, what's your point?

 

How can a two celled organism be considered a "clone" of a single celled organism?

 

Simply that people on both sides should recognize that abortion is a homicide. You obviously do, but many other pro abortion folks are still in denial.

 

They are called twins, mono-zygotic twins to be precise and are NOT one "organism."

 

What species were you before you magically became a human?

Wrong.

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-07/dick-cheney-gains-new-lease-life-loses-pulse

So what the hell is Dick Cheney?

Wrong

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Not this idiocy again. Please do yourself and us all a favor and read through the posts tat least if you already took to debating something you did not bother to learn about.

 

The zygote is one organism as is the two celled organism he/she grows into. You are so silly.

 

So this again? No reasonable intelligent response so you just post a nasty insult. You have no room to talk of anyone elses ignorance.

 

Not really. The two cells can become two organisms.

 

It is a tired old and moronic line of reasoning: "what kind of being is it then?" Much like something you would use.

 

Until they do, they are one organism

 

A tired old response is "well that is just stupid" because you have no reasonable answer to the question.

 

That means that at any given time immediately after the first division, YOU can not tell whether there is one or there are two organisms. How is it possible to not be able to determine if something is one or two?

 

Has it occurred to you that reasonable answers follow reasonable questions?

 

It is one organism until it becomes two. What part of that don't you understand?