Homosexual marriage

AIDs did not exist in the Biblical days, its irrelevant.

 

What an ignorant statement. AIDS is not a homosexual disease.

 

And you know this how? Many diseases over the centuries went un-named and indeed un-diagnosed. TB was once called 'consumption' which was an all inclusive term at the time. Just because we know what it is nowadays does not mean the disease did not exist in the past. Perhaps this is part of the reason why there are so few homosexuals? Maybe Mother Nature is trying to tell them something?

 

Really? Then why was is it attributed to the promiscuity of homosexual men? It was originally called the 'gay disease' because the majority of those struck with the ailment were indeed homosexual men.

September 2010...Reuters: "Nearly one in five gay and bisexual men in 21 major US cities are infected with HIV"...Gay men represent about 2% of the US population and yet are the most severely affected by AIDS. In 1998 54% of all AIDS cases in the US were homosexual men. Studies show that anal sex (the kind homosexual men routinely engage in) may be an important risk factor for relaying many diseases including AIDS. Gay bowel disease is thought to be a main factor in the transmission of HIV and other diseases.

Please get the facts before accusing others of being ignorant.

 

But irrelevant. I think pickled pigs feet are disgusting. Does that mean I can condemn people who like them? What about if almost everyone agreed that pickled pig's feet are disgusting? I would say there's no reason to condemn in either case.

And many non-homosexuals as well. God needs AID with his aim.

 

Did you know that the AIDS virus that infects you is not the one that kills you? Viruses evolve so fast that they evolve during the course of an infection.

 

So if a straight person gets the flu, does that make the flu is straight disease?

Aids is an epidemic that effects everyone, not just gays. Tell the 22 ½ million people in Africa that it is a 'gay disease'

 

Sexually transmitted disease rates soar: CDC

Well well, based on the above logic, syphilis is now homosexual disease, and gonorrhea is a black disease.

Hey non-black straight people, you have no reason to have any fear of syphilis, gonorrhea or AIDS now!

 

You will need to prove that AIDs existed in the Biblical times, I am not making a claim to the affirmative. Genetic sequencing traces HIV to a ape ancestry, however only old world primates. It is a recent disease. A disease that does not effect only homosexuals, heterosexuals can contract it as well.

As for the last bit, why are there so few homosexuals? Why are there so few lefties? Or people with blue eyes? The question is a non-point.

 

I did not see the word condemn in any part of that snip of scripture. In fact, Christians hate the sin, not the sinner.

Heteros in the US were most likely infected by homosexuals having sex with bi-sexuals or by sharing needles with infected homosexuals or even by contaminated blood (before adequate screening techniques). The point I was making is that in the US, AIDS was initially spread by the homosexual community and even today, the majority of folks with the disease are homosexual.

 

Bad analogy, the flu is airborne, AIDS/HIV takes physical contact with bodily fluids.

Yes it effects everyone now that the gay community has spread it. No one really knows what started AIDS in Africa..some say it was sex with a monkey. Here in the US it started and was incubated in the gay community who steadfastly refuses, even to this day, to take any responsibility.

 

I never said AIDS was a homosexual disease. I said it strikes the majority of homosexual men.

 

But your own words admitted no sin. You simply said most people find homosexuality yucky. Even if that's true, so what?

But still AIDS does not care if it infects a homosexual or someone else. God needs needs to take his punishment-gun to the shop! His pain-bazooka produces an embarrassing amount of of collateral damage

 

A virus is a virus.

Sex with a monkey? Probably more like someone was bitten by a monkey.

Given this logic – here is what a homosexual could say:

YOU need to take responsibility for any and all straight STD's that were started and incubated in the heterosexual community. Like Gonorrhea or Syphilis.
Speaking of Syphilis, thanks (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*), for given us Syphilis.

The above is basically what you are saying to the gay community on AIDS.

 

If you read my post, I was replying to a snip of Bible scripture.

It is fact that AIDS/HIV infects the majority of 2% of the US population...homosexuals. There must be something about homosexuals that causes most of a 2% population to get a particular disease....lifestyle maybe?

 

RPA's opinion, if it really is his opinion, is utterly dispicable.

 

Really, what is so despicable about wanting to know who the carriers of a disease are? Oh yeah...If they're GAY we are all supposed to shut up or risk being called names by idiots.

 

NEITHER - DUH!

But it doesn't change the fact that they are viruses.

Wanna have a real conversation, or just a one-sided conversation on what you deem as approriate behavior?

Pedophilia is the cause of venereal diseases

 

The scripture said homosexuality is an abomination. You then went on to say that it seems fairly accurate since most people think homosexuality is yucky. I'm not quite sure what the Bible was getting at, but I'm pretty sure it was not simply stating an opinion that a lot of people think homosexuality is yucky and that's the end of it.

According to the CDC, in 2009 the difference in infection rates between heterosexuals and homosexuals was 17%. That is, among hetero and homo only, 68% were homo and 41% were hetero. It seems to me God is quite displeased with heterosex as well. Maybe what God really does want is for everyone to become a priest or a nun. That way God could love us all the more as we die out in a single generation as a totally abstinent species.

 

Once again, we see an animosity laced diatribe.

However, R, you have an unique opportunity as a gay man to address some of the moral issues in a way that is both humanizing and insightful. For instance.

#1 - AIDS hit the homosexual community hard. And the reason for this in self evident. The virus is a virus. No human being in more or less, in the aggregate anyway, suseptable to AIDS than any other. So why did it hit the homosexual community so hard?

Because large chunks of the homosexual community are not founded on monogamy are they? There was, and to a large extent, still is some very risky sexual behavior in the homosexual community, where anonimous sex and multiple partners simply dwarf that kind of behavior in the heterosexual community (which is bad enough in its own right).

So, as a homosexual and member of the community, quite obviously in favor of gay marriage, how would you focus attention on the changes in the community to expand monogamy and control the riskier side of sexual exploration?

#2 - there are moral dimensions to gay marriage. In a large extent, these issues have been framed in a legal sense. Do you really think that gay people are going to 'marry' simply for legal benefits?

Or is there love, affection, etc. that drives two people to make a commitment to one another than transcends taxes and policy?

All attempts to introduce these angles have been shot down as merely the rambling of religious nut jobs, but we have Anglicans and others actively advocating this aspect in sharp contrast to the strictly legal approach.

What do you say?

Or do you just want to insult people while demanding they respect you?

 

"How do we know that pederasty, for instance, wasn't the cause for the spread of all the venereal diseases we have now?"

Classic argument from ignorance, attempting to support his case by appeal to something he doesn't know.

 

Oh yes, its clear that AIDS did NOT ravage the homosexual community?

Well, might as well deny reality, as long as you can get a dig in on another Christian.

 

They eat monkeys in Africa. The most likely transfer was someone getting monkey blood in a wound while preparing a meal.

True enough the spread of the virus started in bath houses on the west coast, and was primarily due to a male flight attendant. The homophobic response to the disease, which was originally called GRID (gay-related immune deficiency), played a large role, too. The attitude perpetuated by the Reagan-administration's health officials was that it could only affect gay men. This "fact," coupled with the country's rampant homophobia, resulted in a lack of research into the disease. So while the gay community definitely did not help, neither did anyone else. You can't solely blame homosexuals for the spread of HIV.

 

Haha. So if you saw gay people in public, expressing affection for one another, youd start conflict?

believe it or not, there's probably a whole lot of gay people who are a whole lot tougher than you. I can only hope you confront one of them.