Exclusive: Comey will stop short of saying Trump obstructed justice in Flynn probe, source says

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  1. Mrlucky

    Mrlucky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The CNN fool is an idiot hack. Where is the intent? NONE, either politically or legally.

    18 U.S.C. § 1503, which provides that "whoever . . . . corruptly or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication, influences, obstructs, or impedes, or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede, the due administration of justice, shall be (guilty of an offense)."
     
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    Obviously his alleged lie was the obstruction even though it was Tim said - Scooter said. And as it turned out it was Richard Armitage who worked for Colin Powell in the State Department who disclosed Plame's name which was not illegal. So Libby is convicted of lying about a situation which was not a crime. This is a poster child example of why Special Prosecutors who want to make a name for themselves by "getting" somebody are a bad idea. Thankfully Mueller does not fit that description.
     
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    Yes it is stop with the phony semantics. His statement contains no evidence of an obstruction of justice and if he is asked and he says an obstruction of justice did not occur that's it, end of story. Unless you are going to hold him for perjury and then he'll have to explain why he did not hand it over to the DOJ and the SOTH, he had direct evidence to the President committing a felony.

    But it is a moot point now, the IC's today said absolutely no interference it interceding of the investigations, Comey will testimony no obstruction of justice occurred.

    You are presenting a conclusion begging for evidence.
     
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    If you don't understand what obstruction of justice is, you don't know if Trump's action was or not.

    Getting over an obstacle doesn't mean the obstacle was not there. This is a concept even a simple mind should be able to grasp.
     
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    Exactly obstruction has to have an element of corruption. Trump is not even involved in the Flynn investigation it has NOTHING to do with him or his administration.
     
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    Does Comeys statement say no obstructjon occurred?
     
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    So it's not obstruction if you're just trying to help a buddy? Lol
     
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    Ahhh you got it backwards.
     
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    Depends on if there is an element of corruption. Where did Comey present that?
     
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    Trump did not obstruct justice as Comey confirmed today.
     
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    Ok, well that will pretty much start the end of the "bulge" of anti-trump stuff if this is what comes out tomorrow.

    I can see people are already beginning to twist words here in this thread to keep the theory going, but a lot of the country will begin to care less and less.

    Eventually it will be seen by everyone but the far left as just a conspiracy theory that proved that Trump is right, the media is fuaxing ridiculous and shouldn't be trusted
     
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    Legal analyst versus person involved in the case and who was leader of the FBI.

    Just a bit ago you were all talking about how Comey is amazing and was going to prove Trump did X, Y, and Z. Are we back to "he is an idiot and shouldn't be trusted" now?

    You wonder why we don't trust these stories, you believe any single person on the planet's lone story as long as it goes with your narrative.
     
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    you realize they were talking about Flynn's phone call with Russian ambassador right? Trump fired him the day before lieing about it the day before and was saying look we know there's nothing wrong with that I punished him. Trump didn't know he potentially lied to the FBI that happened much later and is what might get Flynn if anything.
     
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    Correct, When a person says something to the effect of He's a good guy. I HOPE you can see your way to doing something about this, Hope is the operative word. It does not reasonably meet any legal test to show intent.

    I can only use what Comey said about HRC's emails as an example. He said, While she showed Extremely Poor Judgement, no reasonable prosecutor would take the case. Many would argue that the wording is the same as Gross Negligence. Comey in her case was investigator, prosecutor and judge but his rationale is quite similar to what Trump said. Probably not advisable to discuss but not enough there to call what was said obstruction. Not to mention, Comey has no witness to corroborate his "memo" or notes. He also doesn't know if the WH or Trump recorded any conversations and vice versa. So they both know it would only amount to he said, she said unless someone comes up with some facts that can be used in court.
     
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    And no it's not obstruction when you a mayor ask a city prosecutor to give the guy a break. If it were most mayors would be in jail.
     
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    Many feel he confirmed there was obstruction
     
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    No he confirmed that the people who screamed "fake news!!" at the anonymous sources that leaked the memo, are fools, but nothing about the legality of Trump's action.
     
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    I'd tell those to FEEL THIS! - No actually, Leave it up to the courts or Congress. Congress can start impeachment if they want. It would not get to square one even in the House. In a court of law, the bar is much higher to prove what was said is Obstruction beyond any reasonable doubt.

    Think Mueller would allow Comey to say what he did if he thought there was any obstruction?
     
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    Well maybe they should think instead of feel.
     
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    If you google this right now you get the most insane ranging things, everything from saying "He will be impeached" to "Nothing is going to happen".

    I tend to lean towards the ladder as to actually following the law, but am going to sit back again to wait and see until its done.
     
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    Have you forgotten Comey usurped the authority of AG Lynch and declined to bring charges against several parties involved in the email scandal? Comeys playing for a presidential pardon for his own crimes. Trumps nominated a new FBI director, and James Comey has a date with him in the very near future.
     
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    Only the PUI's would come to that conclusion.
     
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    Only the PUI's would come to that conclusion.
     
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    You have to appreciate that this is the final straw that liberals have left to cling to. Rogers, McCabe, Brennan, and Rothenstein were not feeding into the fake MSM obstruction frenzy. Apparently neither is Comey.
     
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    Trump did nothing wrong. The dems are SO butthurt after getting trounced in the election they have nothing else to do but accuse Trump of anything and everything.
     
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