Historians give Trump brutal grades in new survey -- and rank him worse than the president who died

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  1. 10A

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    Oh, rawstory?

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    These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports, and omit information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy

    This is a "current event"?
     
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    Or much of anything else.
     
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    The study was conducted by CSPAN. Are they untrustworthy? Hmmmmm?
     
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    I'm sure a lot of racists rated Lincoln low, too. Meh. Pointless post.
     
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    4th worst is being quite generous. Trump is objectively the worst president in our history.
     
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    He'll be in the history books alright. As an absolute loser and an object lesson... :roflol:
     
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    There is no media today that is totally unbiased. Listen to reports, read papers or whatever and weigh what you see and hear with what you know and believe and make your own decision. For me that would apply to CSPAN as well.
     
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    CSPAN is less biased than organizations like epoch times and gatewaypundit which are posted ad nauseum.
     
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    Funny how bias is routinely discussed when the article makes Trump look bad, but that same approach isn't given when posters constantly put out articles from right wing media pj media, epoch times and project veritas who have all been caught lying.
     
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    People who understand history ranked Trump one of the worst. This is more reliable than people who think Trump won in a landslide and can't point to any fraud at all.
     
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    What I said applies to all media today, for myself anyway. It isn't the stories that get distorted so badly, it's our personal view of what they tell us and how much influence their personal views will influence us.
    I don't believe I have ever seen a media article designed to make Trump look good.
     
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    The media even admits their bias. We rank last in media trust of all the western nations. That you think the way you do is just a reflection of how bad our media is.
     
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    Well water, rocks, air and soil are racist to liberals. Why not our national founders.
     
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    Sure every media has a bias, but wouldn't you agree some are more biased than other?

    I don't know anyone who would put CSPAN and things like epoch times on the same level.
     
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    I would have prior to Trump but I listened to the attacks for 4 years and I think the level of bias is consistent, the actual hatred may vary.

    Trump was very different because he was not part of the status quo and presented a real challenge for them.
     
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    You mean you didn't notice all the media lies about Obama during his presidency?
     
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    That's a function of your flaming butthurt, not objective reality. The Previous Guy was an abject failure, whether or not you are capable of acknowledging it.
     
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    Objectively?

    LOL, you do know what that means, right? Please tell us your objective criteria used in making this claim.
     
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    Its used the same way Trump supporters use it such as Biden objectively lost the election because I saw a tweet on Twitter.
     
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    Objectively?

    LOL, you do know what that means, right? Please tell us your objective criteria used in refuting this claim.
     
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    Objective - existing independent or external to the mind. Based on empirical data which is not based on opinion.

    You know the difference between fact and opinion?

    Oh, and you made the claim, so go right ahead and back it up.
     
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    More Americans dead on his watch than any president.
     
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    How many? Have a total?

    That is one of many possible measures. I'm assuming you have some objective, mathematical formula that balances that factor with the rest?

    Just post it up.
     
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