‘Conspiracy theorists’ sane, government dupes crazy and hostile

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  1. Perilica grad Ameriku

    Perilica grad Ameriku Banned

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    Good. Now have you ever actually seen a building that large? Because you sure don't sound like you have.

    You appear unable to count as well. The fires are shown to stretch across six floors in the first picture, more than ten in the second. And they are huge!

    LOL.... there you go again. The final fallback of the clueless poltroon who has had his rhetorical ass handed to him on a platter.
     
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    Why doe verinage work then? Grades are back from Kindergarten. FAIL.
     
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    How do you think the highest fire there got started? By magic? Or are you dubious enough to think that once fire has passed through an area, it just goes back to being normal?

    You talk about the laws of physics but have no idea in the slightest what you are talking about. Your understanding of physics is about as bad as bad science gets.

    ek=1/2mv2

    Basic physics.
     
  4. Brother Jonathan

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    Quantumhead's understanding of physics is obviously superior to yours.
     
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    You post things like this and then wonder why you were banned from jref..
     
  6. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    yes thats the specialty of experts, dishonesty.

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    real fire, nearly white hot.
     
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    A man who thinks a falling 100,000 ton block will not crush 1 story below it is not superior in anything.
     
  8. Kokomojojo

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    well when dealing with that level of dishonesty I see no other way. Do you?
     
  9. Perilica grad Ameriku

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    Quantumhead's command of physics is limited to cardboard boxes and barbie dolls.
     
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    In one (*)(*)(*)(*)ing window. Think for a change. I accidently dropped a zero, too.
     
  11. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I feel sorry for conspiracy theorists, I really do.

    When they finally come to their senses, they will feel pretty aweful about all the time they have waisted on these silly ideas.
     
  12. Kokomojojo

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    but fire does not weaken all the load supporting columns in milliseconds to make it fall, fire works very very slowly. things ever so slowly sag.

    so you misrtepresent the matter just like every other oshugger.


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    try and keep it real next time.
     
  13. Brother Jonathan

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    People who understand physics understand that that same 100,000 ton block will also crush itself in the process. That is Newton's third law of motion.
    In other words, as the 100,000 ton block destroyed the floors below it would destroy itself and disintegrate long before it reached ground zero.
     
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    dont its the oshuggers need mental heath care


    Psychologist Laurie Manwell of the University of Guelph agrees that the CIA-designed “conspiracy theory” label impedes cognitive function. She points out, in an article published in American Behavioral Scientist (2010), that anti-conspiracy people are unable to think clearly about such apparent state crimes against democracy as 9/11 due to their inability to process information that conflicts with pre-existing belief.

    In the same issue of ABS, University of Buffalo professor Steven Hoffman adds that anti-conspiracy people are typically prey to strong “confirmation bias” – that is, they seek out information that confirms their pre-existing beliefs, while using irrational mechanisms (such as the “conspiracy theory” label) to avoid conflicting information.

    The extreme irrationality of those who attack “conspiracy theories” has been ably exposed by Communications professors Ginna Husting and Martin Orr of Boise State University. In a 2007 peer-reviewed article entitled “Dangerous Machinery: ‘Conspiracy Theorist’ as a Transpersonal Strategy of Exclusion,” they wrote:
    “If I call you a conspiracy theorist, it matters little whether you have actually claimed that a conspiracy exists or whether you have simply raised an issue that I would rather avoid… By labeling you, I strategically exclude you from the sphere where public speech, debate, and conflict occur.”

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    more dishonesty, 100000 ton block of steel will not crush itself in the process.

    geez listen to yourselves already, that is crazy talk!
     
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    What will the conspiracy theorists do when they realize their silly ideas have been a massive waste of time?

    I hate to think what. :(
     
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    According to me verinage was not relevant in any of the WTC towers. Only crazy conspiracy theorists believe that.
     
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    isnt that the stuff used for models?



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    do you know what that is?
     
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    Yet there would be a mass of semi-fluid wreckage falling,gaining speed and mass as well as inertia.

    Destroying everything towards the one point it could go no farther...the ground

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    you're contradicting yourself with that statement,then.
     
  19. Brother Jonathan

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    Actually if a 100,000 ton portion of building came crashing down on top of the lower portion of the building the lower portion would push back with an equal and opposite force. Think about it. If one story of the building was suddenly removed (lets say by explosives), then the upper floors would come crashing down on the lower floors but it would not go very far because the lower portion would destroy the upper portion just as the upper portion destroyed the lower portion.
     
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    This is easy to prove false. Anyone could prove this wrong at home. Physical objects simply do not behave in the manner you claim.

    No contradiction there. You obviously do not understand what verinage means.
     
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    Whether its a 100,000 ton block, or 100,000 ton in a million pieces, it still weighs 100,000 ton.

    ffs where do you people get off?
     
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    HOWEVER you seem to forget,the upper floors would still contain the same mass,falling on the bottom portion if the WTC,getting heavier as the collapse progressed,it really doesn't matter what shape they were in
     
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    Which just shows that you lack the capability to comprehend what you see.

    You break the towers the way you eat an elephant.
     
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    You talk about Newton's laws but have no idea what they mean. You are effectively telling me why a horse will never pull a cart, and why a shotgun doesn't work.

    Here is a scenario. A .22 rifle fires 3 identical bullets. 1 hits a sheet of paper. 1 hits a watermelon. 1 hits a block of wood. Are all targets going to produce the same "equal and opposite" force? No. Which target is going to provide the largest force? Than answer is the block of wood. Just because the same bullet is travelling at the same speed doesn't mean it's hitting with the same force on each target. It's the sum of all forces.
     
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    Why don't they behave that way?..Are you claiming that a single,semi fluid mass wouldn't weigh the same as the intact floors?

    And I understand completely what it means,YOU don't seem to understand what the contradiction in your statement is
     
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