“We don’t have a reliable partner at the White House to negotiate with.”

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  1. MMC

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    Of course.....as Trump knows the Demos can't stand the Rocking Robin tweeting all about it.
     
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    Obviously you are running with an alternative reality. The Demos own it. Now you lefties of the leftness can live with that.




    The New York Democrat says his party would accept a stopgap funding bill to keep the government open for a few days to buy time to "get the job done" in talks on immigration legislation.

    But he says a House-passed spending bill that would keep the government open for another month would merely "kick the can down the road," and says Democrats will block it.....snip~

    House Speaker Paul Ryan and other Republicans are blaming a potential government shutdown on Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer, even promoting a website called www.schumershutdown.com.

    Ryan and other GOP leaders are urging Schumer and Senate Democrats to support a four-week spending bill approved by the House Thursday night, saying they were the only ones standing in the way of keeping the government open.....snip~

    9:15 p.m.

    The Senate's top Republican is blaming a potential government shutdown this weekend on Democratic demands for legislation to give protection against deportation to immigrants brought to the country illegally.

    Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says demands by Democrats for a deal on these so-called "Dreamers" has "crowded out" the rest of the Senate's business, including keeping the government open.

    The Kentucky Republican points out that during the most recent shutdown in 2013, top Senate Democrat Chuck Schumer attacked Republicans for shutting the government down by demanding unrelated language to try to block implementation of then-President Barack Obama's health care law.

    McConnell is citing a quote from 2013 in which Schumer said making demands for an immigration overhaul as a condition of keeping the government open would result in "chaos.".....snip~

    http://www.chron.com/news/politics/...mp-pushes-back-against-aide-over-12506781.php
     
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    Actually the Demos did along with the Tricky DICK Durbin....when they threw S Chip up into the mix.


    President Donald Trump says a children's health insurance program shouldn't be part of a short-term budget deal.

    Trump favors making the program part of "a long term solution, not a 30 Day, or short term, extension!"

    Trump is referring to the Children's Health Insurance Program, also known as CHIP

    House Republican leaders have included a six-year renewal in a short-term budget bill in an effort to woo Democrats. But the effort faces resistance from Democrats who've been demanding protections for certain young immigrants......snip~

    http://www.chron.com/news/politics/...mp-pushes-back-against-aide-over-12506781.php
     
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    There's very little to say after that
     
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    Which points out how little Trump knows about what's going on. The CHIP extension in the proposal is for 6 YEARS
     
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    I know.....especially for your Team. Maybe its time for your kind to listen to your illberals and don't speak on the matter any more. After McConnell pointed out why the Demos and Chuck Cheese will own this shutdown.

    He then will make sure they wont be going home this weekend. Pretty much puts it into the perspective of a reality that the left cannot avoid.
     
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    It appears Trump does know what he is talking about and he is correct. The CHIP Program should not be in a Short StopGap Measure nor adding it to any Immigration legislation.
     
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    (CNN) —

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Wednesday that despite months of intense debate over immigration legislation, President Donald Trump has not made clear what he wants in a final bill, one that he would sign into law.

    "I'm looking for something that President Trump supports. And he's not yet indicated what measure he's willing to sign," McConnell said at a Capitol Hill news conference. "As soon as we figure out what he is for, then I would be convinced that we were not just spinning our wheels going to this issue on the floor, but actually dealing with a bill that has a chance to become law and therefore solve the problem."
     
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    he wasn't caving. he has sold himself to the defense lobby. the defense spending is in the plan, but the dems didn't give in on immigration spending. Graham, like the dumbass that he is, thinks he can out maneuver trump.
     
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    no it wasn't.
     
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    so, the bill satisfied his request, but the meeting erupted into aggression because trump hated the bill. all the responses out of the white house have been detailing what was missing from the bill, but because a couple of jackasses from either side of the aisle sold out the public for personal reasons, and we're supposed to blame trump for upholding campaign promises.
     
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    Huh?
     
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    (CNN) —

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Wednesday that despite months of intense debate over immigration legislation, President Donald Trump has not made clear what he wants in a final bill, one that he would sign into law.

    "I'm looking for something that President Trump supports. And he's not yet indicated what measure he's willing to sign," McConnell said at a Capitol Hill news conference. "As soon as we figure out what he is for, then I would be convinced that we were not just spinning our wheels going to this issue on the floor, but actually dealing with a bill that has a chance to become law and therefore solve the problem."
     
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    The bipartisan bill presented to trump sucked.
     
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    Ridiculous. Lets review the facts. Drumpf ended DACA but said a number of times he would sign a permanent fix, a "bill of love." Repubs in Congress refused to fund CHIP but said they would get around to it once they found a way to fund CHIP by taking funds away from ACA. Last week during the televised meeting with Repubs and Dems Drumpf said he wasn't going to fuss about this or that being in the bill sent to him on border security and DACA, he trusted the people in the room to come up with a compromise and he would sign what he was sent. When President Trump spoke by phone with Sen. Durbin around 10:15 a.m. last Thursday, he expressed pleasure with Durbin’s outline of a bipartisan immigration pact and praised the efforts, according to White House officials and congressional aides. The president then asked if Sen. Graham was on board, which Durbin affirmed. Trump invited the lawmakers to visit with him at noon, the people familiar with the call said.
    Then came the "shithole" meeting before which Drumpf had clearly changed his mind about the outline of the bill from earlier in the morning, or had his mind changed for him, possibly because of a conversation Drumpf had with John Kelly, with Kelly taking a more extremist view on DACA.
    Since then there's been nothing but finger pointing over blame for the impasse. But two things are clear. Don said he would sign the bill he was sent, and he was in favor of the outline of the bill Durbin told him about Thursday morning only to change his mind by the time the Thursday afternoon meeting was held.
     
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    Well that's a difficult sell considering the attitude of the leftist on the hill and the ones in the trench's! Clearly dictatorial is the new leftist participatory and has been for the last nine years now!

     
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    Lindsay the "Rhino" :)

    Memory of immigration reform under Ronald Reagan haunts current debate
    Bottom line is Republicans will never trust their counterparts on the left on immigration because they have proven to not live up to the bargain!
     
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    Incorrect. Repubs problem isn't not trusting Dems. It's internal fissures between those who will accept a compromise measure on DACA and those who will not.
     
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    When it comes to immigration/amnesty Reagan and 1986 come up in chamber every time. Believe that bro ;) The Democrats "Will Not" live up to anything they agree on, history has them by the nutsack :)
     
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    False again, as usual!

    The White House has not been detailing what is missing from the bill.

    Trump told the world on live television that he would take the heat on DACA if Congress sent him a bill.

    When they took him at his word, he exploded in a display of openly racist vitriol that reverburated around the world.

    Now he's telling everyone that he relies "on the people in the room".

    This is not the first time that Trump has tried to take all sides on an issue. He did the same thing with the Obamacare repeal vote, first lobbying for the GOP house bill, and then turning around and attacking the product he supported and lobbied for as "mean spirited"

    The man has real issues with taking responsibility for anything. Not a desirable trait in a chief executive.
     
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    there is finally a guy with balls telling the political expedient self serving ass hats to stick it, and you can't handle it.
     
  22. Lee Atwater

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    Is that what you think a president's job is? Causing a government shutdown resulting in tremendous anxiety to DACA participants and kids in CHIP. He isn't supposed to unnecessarily cause chaos, he's supposed to prevent it.
     
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    he is supposed to execute current law as well as approve of proposed reasonable law. current law dictates who is illegal. the proposed law wasn't deemed reasonable. meanwhile, this immigration subject has zero bearing on funding the government. quit being ridiculous black mailing the nation for illegals.
     
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    Some compromise. Give us DACA now and will pay for border security later. Seen it before the problem in the Republican party isn't at the grass roots level, it's at the leadership level. Too damn many big donors love the influx of workers to depress wages. And don't really care what happens to the rest of the country as long as they get theirs. Fortunately there is enough New Blood in the senate and house to keep the jackals like Graham and mcConnell honest.
     
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    Assuming of course one stands on one's head squints his eyes really hard and sings "It's a Small World after All" backwards forty five times. Looked at rationally it's the Democrats obvious intransigence on DACA that is the Problem.
     

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