1.5 million Catalans are marching for independence!what's next?Scotland,w-Sahara, Kur

Alot of those countries don't realistic.
I can understand Ogaden in Somalia.

I think that the Belgians are not that fussed over the cultural differences although most of them I've spoken to often complain about the Arabic influence in Brussels.

And I don't think that a united Ireland is realistic.

Trnasdnistria and Northern Cyprus are kind of De facto anyway.

 

they live in the hell

 

Well Moldova has never had a great economy. I don't know that much about Turkish Cyprus though.

I don't think that there is any country in Europe that should be partitioned.

 

disagree with you . its western Europe turn this time

ps Moldova is better (climate, people, ecology) then France , they much like Georgians got too much form the God , who is a greedy one...

 

Ok. Would you explain why there should be a partitioning of the countries of western Europe?

I don't doubt it. But it's still one the poorest states in Europe.

 

When a Political state is multinational (as France, Spain, Belgium and the UK are) you often get a situation where there is a dominant nation , in this case the French, Spanish and English and less powerfull ones such as Catalunya, Basques,Britanny, Scotland Wales and N.Ireland. Certainly in the past this lead to less powerful countries being treated badly and thereby raised national consciousness. Belgium is a little different in that the Dominant nationality was the less dominant previously.

There are advantages and disadvantages for the smaller party to gain independence. If the areas as less wealthy [ Scotland, Wales, Basque country, Brittany then they are generally subsidised by the dominant state (there is substantial disagreement over scotland as to wther it is a donor or recipient country) in the vene of independence then they would lose this subsidy and they payments that are normally spread over the whole country for certain things are now born by the new state. For those countries that are wealthier such as Flanders and Catalunya independence makes a great deal of sense. Also in Belgium there is so much anatgonism between the French and Flemishwhich stems from French oppression of the Flemish before WW2, the modern French (Walloons) demaning and receiving subsidy whilst still acting like the dominant partner and there being a substantial difference in political culture that independence seems preferable.

 

I could understand it if those countries were poorly treated in recent years but to use historic arguments in regards to the oppression by the capital; I find it irrelevant in this day and age.

Scotland for example has benefited a great deal from the UK so should they feel that it's fair to ask for independence?

From what I know the only oppressive behaviour in Belgium was the abolition of the Flemish language and I believe that this was repealed in 1898.
So what do you mean by French oppression? Was this later than the Belgian revolution in 1830?

 

was created as a buffer state for France and England , + have in checked Holland

 

The UK is, of course, the most successful political, economic and monetary union in the history of the world.

Not the USA. Not Australia. Not Canada. And definitely not the Eurozone. The UK.

 

Mostly I would agree with you. If I was Flemish I would definitely want to be independent of the French parasites ESPECIALLY given that there was no Flemish speaking university until 1943 and that the last king couldn't even speak flemish until he was 20 and always with a strong French accent

Most Scots agree that they would be better off staying in the United Kingdom (Just as I think England would be better off without them) however I strongly beleive in the right of national self determination and Scots should certainly have the choice to stay or leave.

Then you would be quite wrong

yes quite wrong. It was a systematic denial of the rights of Flemish speakers. All government and courts were held exclusively in French. All Higher education as Exclusively in french until 1943. Flemish towns and cities were renamed with French names. Senior civil servants and Military officers all had to have French backgrounds.

 

Using what criteria? Harvesting deprivation? Britain is definitely number 1 when it comes to condemning kids to poverty

 

What planet are you on? You certainly cannot be living in England.

Wages are being forced down.
Quantities easing is bringing down the value of your money.
The Bank of England has been given away to a non entity that you cannot find out the 14 unelected directors.
Your bloody owned!
The deficit is higher now than after all austerity measures taken by the thieves your lot elected.

Have you just arrived on planet earth or have you just been released?

Highlander

 

Well I'm confident that the majority of Scots will see the advantages of staying apart of the UK.

Although I do think that the Scottish parliament was a very bad idea.

Well I'm not au fait when comes to Belgian domestic policies. Nonetheless these are old grievances and it's difficult to apply these to modern issues.

 

Number one out whom? Are you claiming that the UK has the worst child poverty in the world , just Europe, the developed world or compared to Scandanavia? Justify your hyperbole or lose any credibility you built up when you debated the land tax.

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Got that evidence about Churchill yet or will admit that you were just lying?

 

So do I

There I differ. I think there should be maximum devolution for all constituent parts of the UK.

Its not that Old- it was the sixties before Flemish had legal parity and the French still act is if they own the country even though they are now a minority. There is no good reason for Belgium to be a country. It was created as a buffer state against German expansion between two peoples who only have a religion in common. The French are only 40% of the population but the constitution they forced on belgium means they have 50% of the vote Their language, culture and attitude to government are utterly different. The Flemish want centre right liberalism and an end to Immigration from Muslim countries. the French want Authoritarian socialism and to force aggressive Muslims onto Flemish cities like Antwerp. Essentially the French want the Flemish to pay for their' Grands Projets'.

The flemish should become independent and the Walloons join France. Brussels can remain EU sovereign territory.

 

Don't you know the evidence? Take something like the Luxembourg Income Study. UK child poverty has been shown to be spectacularly high (and of course it only makes sense to compare poverty between developed countries). See, for example, Smeeding's Poor People in Rich Nations

 

I know the evidence, thanks, I check on the facts before I post them. You made a specific claim, ie that the UK was 'number one' in child poverty. You refuse to state which group the UK is 'number one' out of, Obviously because you lied hoping no one would spot it. The UK is certainly NOT 'number one' in developed countries for Child poverty and indeed has a better rating that Luxembourg. Whilst certainly nothing to be proud of the UK , being as it is in the bottom half of countries, it certainly not in any way shape or form 'number one' and no amount of double talk, equivocation or demands to read this or that publication will get around the fact that you just mislead us. You knew the facts because you have read the reports.It didn't stop you, of course, never let the facts get in the way of a political diatribe...eh?

Here is the UNICEF chart of developed nations. http://www.commondreams.org/sites/commondreams.org/files/imce-images/childpovertychart.jpg

 

What your parasitic pedophile? The sodomite!
A leader to be proud!

Why not try answering or even contradicting any of the facts I have previously stated.

Or is it easier before your political bias not to think too closely of the degenerates you support!

My commiserations to your future generations.

Highlander

 

Still waiting for any evidence that he was responsible, as you claim, for the Boer war concentration camps. You made the claim on more than one occasion yet refuse to give evidence, probably because you lied in the first place. You will obviously give evidence that he was a sodomite and Paedophile (btw if you are going to pretend to be from Scotland then don't use the American spelling, it rather gives it away!)

 

Ya twit!

I have an iPad and this ridicules predictive text.

I only wish I was able to switch it off, this app is for idiots that cannot spell.

I am Scottish ........ End of story.

Highlander

 

working class UK´s kids are very poor culturally, its for sure Pubs and Football and this is it.

 

You are not Scottish. Your whole persona is fake right down to your name and comic shortbread tin brogue. Your obsession with Catholic politics and the orange order marks you as a liar, not that your comments about Churchill also mark you as the same.

You seem to be able to type in 'ya twit' without it being corrected but can't change pedophile to paedophile.

If you are from Inverness then you will no doubt know what stands on where the Old Royal Academy building was or what the Picture House in Huntley street was called. If you are lying then you will have no idea and give some smart Alec comment or just refuse to answer.

 

Well when you look at the track record of the Scottish parliament, one wonders as to whether it is a practical idea.

I hate to say it but the 60's is ancient history; well from my youthful perspective anyway.

I was under the impression that Belgium came into being after seceding from the Netherlands before Germany was a united state.

It's not a bad idea.

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It's like that across most of the world. Some people just aren't interested in 'culture'

 

It will make the Scots far more responsible if they have to pay for their mistakes instead of having England bail them out

If you were at College then then it is still very real

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Thats is correct - in 1830. Its succession was as a result of British and French power intimidating the Netherlands. The French insisted on French language supremacy

Cheers. I think it would be best for all concerned

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British youth culture is one of the worlds most inventive. Our popular music is second to none.

 

True but I think the financial cost would outweigh our ability to say "it's their fault"

Only in 05-07

I don't doubt it but that's not to say that we don't have people in our country who aren't interested and aren't insignificant in number.

When it comes to British history & culture, I find time and time again that we keep churning out ideas and I think that we can achieve more together than as individual states.