3rd Party, T Party, Here's your Chance

No, that's just the spin you Libs put on it. Reality speaks a different tone and message.

 

You've been waiting around for decades for a definition? That would explain why you think bigger government equates to more freedom...

 

The TP is open to everyone. They consist of disaffected Republicans, Independents and Democrats (Reagan & Kennedy Dems, typically). http://articles.washingtonpost.com/..._1_tea-party-bachmann-claims-michele-bachmann

WAP confirms this. Even 10-15% of the TP being Dems is pretty significant if you ask me, considering it's a Constitutional Conservative movement.

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Why take God out of it? There's a reason for the Founders placing government under the creator, because Government must be answerable to something other than itself and our freedoms/liberty must be protected by something other than Government.

 

This is off topic... but I have to ask:

Seriously Bumpo... who are you? Do you teach Old English at Columbia or something? When I read your posts, I'm both admirable and annoyed by your use of the English language. Admirable, because I wish I could pull obscure words out of my butt at a moment's notice, but annoyed, because you sound like a vainglorious snob. I'm not sure if this is actually how you speak or you just leave thesaurus.com open on your browser, so you can pull words at will, in order to make yourself appear more intelligent than you actually are on forums of anonymity...

 

The Tea Party's role is during the Republican Primaries. Weeding out RINOs and weak kneed moderate Republicans of the old guard. And sending them packing for home. Dems DREAM of a right wing 3rd party to split the conservative and Republican vote. There are none on the Right who would support a third party for that reason. Whenever someone advocates a third party, it's a tactic to split the GOP vote. Nothing more. That old stuff won't work anymore. Devious and low down, dirty Liberal Dems have even taken to running their own "tea party candidates" in elections such as Virginia. There is no level low enough for Dems not to tread.

 

The person who split the vote in VA was a Libertarian, propped by a Democrat from Texas. He certainly split the vote and Cucinnelli would have won, had he not been in the running. It just goes to show how well Libertarians actually know their nominees. He didn't even believe in Austrian Economics, which is a fundamental base in Libertarianism. However, it was the GOP establishment that left Cucinnelli hanging. He was "too Conservative" for them and switched from backing him to backing the Attorney General.

The GOP no longer represents Conservatives or Conservative values. It would be foolish to just go along for the ride, knowing that your values will never be represented by the party you're backing. Remember the 2011/12 Primaries? They had plenty of true and Constitutional Conservatives to choose from... and Romney. Who did the GOP back?

 

The "Libratarian" who ran in Virginia was a bagman who was bankrolled by a Texas Democrat Billionaire. Even Ron Paul came out on TV commercials telling people the guy was a fake shill of Dems and "Don't Vote For This Guy". Too little too late.

 

A smaller government couldn't have freed the slaves. Don't you get tired of your theories leaving smoking holes in the ground?

 

Exactly.

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What proof do you have for this? Time + the right President + the Emancipation Proclamation + public sentiment toward slavery is what freed the slaves... not a bigger government.

 

None of that freed the slaves. What freed the slaves was a giant "government" ARMY.

 

Well, personally, i like more highbrow pontificating.. it reminds me of more 1800's literature, with a celebration of the language, rather than a dumbing down of it to a 6th grade level. Natty's cute because he/she uses it mostly in snarkiness, rather than anything with real content. I've known people like this over the years, & can always see when they turn on the 'professor' lingo, & start mixing in obscure words that don't always mean what they want them to, but the effect is still there. The main purpose is to make a mild enough insult to slide under the mod's radar, & natty is very good at this. It is supposed to provoke a, 'Oh, yeah? Well F*** Y**!!', from the lessor educated slobs, for an insta ban. But that is just a side game, not the central topic, which usually must be avoided at all costs.

My philosophy is this:

Don't use a big word where a diminutive word will suffice.


There is no character, howsoever good and fine, but it can be destroyed by ridicule, howsoever poor and witless. Observe the ass, for instance: his character is about perfect, he is the choicest spirit among all the humbler animals, yet see what ridicule has brought him to. Instead of feeling complimented when we are called an ass, we are left in doubt. ~Mark Twain

 

The hard part is the electorate has to vote for change more than once, as in every other year - consistently. I don't think that's going to happen.

I think it's going to take a collapse of the federal gov't and a re-incorporation of regional governments, each exemplifying the values of that region. And a multitude of 'free trade agreements'.

 

You can have a large army with a small government.

 

The army IS the government.

 

No, the army is the army. Perhaps you're defining large government differently than I am. The Executive Branch has expanded immensely over the last 100yrs. We don't need a DOE, DOI, DHS, IRS, EPA, DOA, DOL, DHHS, DHUD, DOE, or DOC. Get rid of all of those and you can still have a large military. Take your pick from this list, too: http://www.usa.gov/Agencies/Federal/Independent.shtml. Talk about waste.

 

Every government needs an army. Nobody listens without one.

I don't care about the alphabet soup. Rearrange those departments any way you want. Just don't leave me unprotected against the tyranny of big money.

 

Yeah ,its the cancer eating up what remains of the 2 former great Political Party's of US Imperialism .

Tea Party Lobby organisation for the Republicans .

LGBTI Community Lobby for the Democrats .

Neither ,a Political party just facades of "Brand Politics ".

Amazing and reflective of the intellectual decay of the Political class ,that they had such an easy path .

Obama .isn't smart neither is any Republican .

 

Seriously? How about we dismantle them? You wouldn't have a problem with that?

I'm all for a powerful military, but that isn't a governing body... it's a defensive force to protect us from external/internal enemies.

 

Do you really know what a independent is? I think not......Do you vote a straight ballot? Or do you vote for dems, repubs, libs, all on the same ballot?

 

So, if you ruled the world the US would become Sparta?

What real world example of a contemporary advanced nation would you offer as being preferable to the US? Or are we in the realm of the imagination?

 

As my screen name may imply, I am a member of the Modern Whig Party. My name comes from a character I created named Whizz E. Whig, the Wise Wizard of Whiggery. The website for it is http://www.modernwhig.org/. The party is neither conservative nor liberal, but stands as a true third party focused on the important needs of this country. I plan to run for office as a Whig, and I would encourage others to do the same. I think we need a third party that isn't on the payroll of the groups like the Bilderbergs, but I wonder as to its true success.

 

Maybe you could explain to me exactly what the Independent party stands for? Seems to me most just vote on a whim. As in if one of the two major parties makes them mad they vote the other party. HUH?! Isn't that why Independence are considered the swing voters?

 

Actually it was the stroke of a pen. The war had already been going for a couple of years before Lincoln signed it. The war was about State's Rights vs Federal Government intrusion and interference. Not about Slavery. Remember....The Government HANGED John Brown.

 

Independent votes for democrats republicans or who ever they think will do the better job...No I don't vote on a whim. If I did I would have voted for Obama. T

 

There is no such thing as a governing body without the threat of force. The Army of Virginia would have laughed at the Emancipation Proclamation without the Army of the Potomac.