4-Year-Old Boy Suspended from Daycare for Having Tiny .22 Shellcase

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is not a non-story whatsoever. To make the choice parents have to know the facts. Thus, it is an informational story.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Why the angst? I point out that you aren't exactly the poster child for obedience and we get this? It is fun to read though. Thanks.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK, so the parents failed to impress upon their kid the need to follow the rules.

    He was told the rules on multiple occasions. He disobeyed. He received the consequences of his act.

    If all is well, there won't be a "next time." But, there will be. Why?

    Because mommy and daddy don't see this as their kid breaking the rules. So, he'll have no reason to respect the rules in the future.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So I've been burning cars in the streets? My "criminal" record amounts to a few traffic tickets and letting someone with an expired license drive my car.

    The absolute stupidity of that comment is beyond comment.
     
  5. ButterBalls

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    Now that he is close maybe we can get him on board with the symptoms of
    Jose was deported eight times
    Jose was arrested seven times
    Jose was cites for sexual abuse
    Jose was cited for gang activity
    Jose was cited for petty theft
    Jose convicted of vehicular manslaughter.

    A immigration issue
     
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    I don't think bringing in a bullet casing is cause to circle the wagons, and I think that is part of the problem. If he brought a gun, sure.

    But I am sticking to my guns (haha) here. America has a very myopic view of children. We like to charge children as adults in crime. Here, we are punishing a 4 year old, who cannot understand fully the consequences of his actions, and I can't say that I agree with this.

    All the kid is getting out of this is: he found something that interests him, and he was excited, so he wanted his friends to be excited.

    No harm was done.

    We need to let kids be ****ing kids.
     
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    Really :)
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Irrelevantly stupid.
     
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    Why, are you the only one to escalate the act and the crime LOLOL

    Clearly you don't have a four year old, telling one four time, well that's just to get their attention slick :)
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not.
    It's also not a gun issue, it is a behavior issue. He did this AFTER being told, no more than one occasion it is against the rules. but he proceeded anyway. Punishment was called for and properly delivered.

    While his motives are of no concern, your evaluation of them is wrong. His motives center around getting attention for his actions, showing how "cool" he is. Showing his friends the shell and "proving" to them the rules do not apply to him.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm pretty sure "Johnny" is not an illegal immigrant and the issue is not about immigration.

    This one is no less stupid than the last. I can't even begin to translate the meaning of that.
     
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    And I'm sure he is NOT Kleptomaniac either, huh slick :) Here is the problem, the idiot Liberal running the head start should have quietly taken the child aside and relieved him of the spent cartridge and told the four year not to bring anything like that again, and if he did bring another she should have replayed the same thing again until she actually TAUGHT the child, god forbid. right?

    It's folks like you that need to sensationalize everything that do more harm than good! Out of the poster here you were the first to drama it up with stealing with absolutely no regard for the child's age. You really think this must be taken to the level it is? But the real kicker is at some point I will have the honor of reading a post from you defending some Muslim or illegal for some capital crime and then thinking back to this hissy fit about a friggin FOUR YEAR OLD!
     
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    I never said he was so you start your post with a lie.

    As for "hissy fit?" PUUUUUUULLLLLLEEEEEEEZZZZZZEEEE!!!!

    The only people throwing "hissy fits" are the gun nuts who see a "gun grabber" under every bed.

    The only issue is a kid disobeying and being punished according to the rules of the school. He was warned. He was counseled. The next step is punishment, that is the consequences of his actions.

    The OP is not complaining about a kid being punished. He's complaining about a kid being punished for brining a firearm accessory to school.
     
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    He's ****ing 4 years old. Why are you holding his "motives" to such an absurd standard? Human brains aren't fully developed until the age of 21. This is a 4 year old KID for christ sakes.

    Put the onus where it belongs; on the parents. If the kid is acting out, deal with them.

    Until he is old enough to understand consequences.

    This country is so ****ed up.
     
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    Try again slick! No need to apologize for the lie bit your self incrimination is satisfactory ;)
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you cannot understand why kids do what kids do you will be unable to effectively influence their behavior.

    The story says the kid was counseled on more than one occasion. The story does not say that the parents were informed but, my experience with these environments is that an issue of this type would have been discussed with the parents upon its first appearance.

    The parents are responsible for their child. The school is responsible for the safety of the school environment. Whether the parents failed to properly manage their kid or not their actions do not relieve the school of its responsibilities to both this kid and all of the other children.
     
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    Your inability to properly comprehend the English language again asserts itself and embarrasses you in the process.
     
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    Post a link to your proof that he had been told not to bring a shell casing to school "on several occasions."
     
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    It's a very good question! Clearly drama is at play here and the stupid head start school. I hope is Law Officer Gramps makes life as miserable for these moron as they are for his Four year old Grandson!
     
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    A 4 year old cannot be held to the same standard as an adult when it comes to complex decision making, and I think it's wicked to assert otherwise, actually.

    It is the school, and the parents, who are at fault. The school should have been discussing this with the parents. The parents should have been taking responsibility and raising their kid.

    The 4 year old is a -victim- here.
     
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    OMG it is in the EFFIN OP.

    "For the adults at A Place 2 Grow Child Care and Learning Center in Troy, Illinois, the main sticking point is that Hunter had been continuing to “make guns out of other toys,” according to a letter from the preschool to his father and his mother Kristy Jackson.

    In fact, the letter says, Hunter had been told that “guns, hunting, etc., are not subjects that are to be discussed at school.” And despite “multiple attempts to redirect” his “behaviors” toward “other activities,” Hunter kept up his gun play.
    "

    Geez!
     
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    You're right. He wasn't arrested, jailed, or indicted for any crime. He was suspended for continuing to break school rules.

    Once again...

    HE WAS SUSPENDED FOR CONTINUING TO BREAK SCHOOL RULES

    That is behavior that a four year old can understand and for which he can be held accountable.
     
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    They have taken anything regarding a gun to the Nth level of absurdity.
     
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    Sounds like he's headed for the military. Kids like that keep our Armed Forced voluntary. Unless you want yours drafted....do you?
     

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